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Maglor68 07-20-2001 06:40 AM

Another Odd Man Out
 
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I came up with a really good one and didn't want to wait.

Elves
Men
Ents
Hobbits
Orcs

This is a killer question!

- Maglor

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

I'll say it's a killer, since there are probably about 1,000 different answers.

Hobbits, bcause they did not play a role in the Battle of Helm's Deep?

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Telchar 07-20-2001 08:02 AM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

Orks - because they are bread/invented by another Power than Iluvatar?

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Beregond 07-20-2001 01:27 PM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

Ents, because they were probably the only ones who didn't smoke (I don't know about orcs?). <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Falmar 07-20-2001 07:14 PM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

Ents. The only race without children.

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Eldarion son of Aragorn 07-21-2001 05:34 AM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

Hobbits the only ones not mentioned in the long list of living creatures?

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

But are Orcs listed? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Eldarion son of Aragorn 07-21-2001 05:45 AM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

oh yeah, O.k then Orcs since they were the only ones not listed after the War of the Ring?

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

Maglor68 07-23-2001 06:00 AM

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Ents

Some of you guessed the right answer, but none of you for the right reason. Here's a hint.

Four of these races did something that the fifth one didn't. (a hint - the orcs did it frequently, and the hobbits are known only to have done it once).

- Maglor

You guys are going to love the answer.

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Grond 07-23-2001 09:02 AM

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Wild guess

Maybe ents? Because they are the only who didn't enter in Torech Ungol or fought against Shelob?
Orcs did enter often in those passages and frodo and Sam entered once.

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Maglor68 07-23-2001 10:25 AM

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Ents

Okay - I already stupidly gave away the answer - Ents. But why? What did no ent ever do that was done at least once by an elf, a human, a hobbit and an orc?

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Odysseus819 07-23-2001 12:50 PM

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Re: Ents

Get imprisoned by Sauron?

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Re: Ents

Ents didn't fight in the Battle of Five Armies?

Let me lie here... to keep the Fords till Eomer comes!</p>

Falmar 07-23-2001 09:44 PM

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Re: Ents

Ents never killed a member of their own race.

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Maglor68 07-24-2001 05:04 AM

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Bingo

Exactly, Falmar.

Unless it is tucked away somewhere in the HoME books, there is no recorded incident anywhere of an ent slaying another ent.

(If you are wondering about hobbits, remember Gollum killed Deagol).

I'm not sure about dwarves which is why they weren't included in the list.

Go Falmar!

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Odysseus819 07-24-2001 05:30 AM

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Re: Bingo

That was a good question Maglor, but didn't hobbits also kill other hobbits in the scouring of the Shire?

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Re: Bingo

I don't think they did. They just got killed by ruffians. <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

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Maglor68 07-24-2001 11:46 AM

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Battle Of Bywater

It does not specifically say one way or the other, but the implication (Frodo - &quot;There is to be NO killing of hobbits ...) is that they did not. Some hobbits were killed at the battle, however. In any event, it doesn't technically change the answer.

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Beregond 07-25-2001 05:10 AM

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Re: Battle Of Bywater

Falmar? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Odysseus819 07-25-2001 05:22 AM

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Re: Battle Of Bywater

Yes, I think you're right -- it doesn't say any hobbit killed a hobbit. Like I said, good question, Maglor.

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Falmar 07-25-2001 05:36 PM

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Re: Battle Of Bywater

Denethor of Gondor, Hurin Thalion, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, Elwe Singollo, King Theoden.

Which doesn't belong? And why?

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Re: Battle Of Bywater

Elwe, the only one to live over 200 years? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Maglor68 07-27-2001 10:01 AM

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Denethor

Denethor was the only one who gave in to the will of an enemy.

Elwe - refused to give up the Nuaglamir
Theoden - charged the Nazgul
Hurin - defied Morgoth even while imprisoned
Lobelia - attempted to fight off the ruffians

Denethor - Was overwhelmed by his visions, gave up and commited suicide.

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Maglor68 08-01-2001 07:00 AM

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Falmar

Well?

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Telchar 08-01-2001 07:12 AM

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Re: Falmar

Lobelia was the only on to die of old age - wasn't killed

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Falmar 08-04-2001 12:32 AM

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Re: Falmar

I think Telchar gave a good answer, although not the one I was thinking of. I was thinking that Elwe was the only one that did not have a son die before him.

Go ahead Telchar.

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Re: Falmar

That was a good question ! We should have gotten that one.

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Telchar 08-06-2001 01:58 AM

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Re: Falmar

Celebrimbor
Turgon
Galadriel
Curufin
Finrod
Celegorm

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Another Odd Man Out

Celebrimbor was the only one who was not a grandchild of Finwe? (he was a great-grandson)

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Telchar 08-06-2001 11:47 PM

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Re: Another Odd Man Out

That is a good answer Maglor68, but not what I was lookin for! <img src=frown.gif ALT=":(">

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Maglor68 08-07-2001 09:15 AM

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Realms

They each had their own realms, except one of the sons of Feanor - I can't remember which one.

Celebrimbor - Lindon
Finrod - Nargathrond
Galadriel - Lorien
Turgon - Gondolin
Celegorm / Curifin - ?

I know I'm close, so I'm going to guess Celegorm

- Maglor

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Telchar 08-07-2001 11:08 PM

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Re: Realms

Not that either!

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Falmar 08-09-2001 01:50 AM

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Re: Realms

Was Celebrimbor the only one born in Middle-Earth?

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Telchar 08-09-2001 01:55 AM

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Re: Realms

Not that either!

HINT: All of them except one visited one place in ME

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Falmar 08-09-2001 02:02 AM

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Re: Realms

Did Galadriel ever visit Nargothrond?

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Telchar 08-09-2001 02:27 AM

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Re: Realms

Im pretty sure that she must have visited her brother

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Re: Realms

Did Turgon never visit Nargothrond?

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Re: Realms

Correct again - with a little help from Falmar <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Odysseus819 08-09-2001 09:37 AM

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Re: Realms

Yeah until your hint and Falmar's near miss I was going to say Galadriel, the only one not to die in M.E.

I have to think of a new Q; if anyone else has a good one ready, go ahead.

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Re: Realms

OK - I have a pretty cute one <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Gandalf
Boromir
Merry
Pippin
Aragorn
Frodo
Gimli
Legolas
Sam

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