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Mithadan 09-21-2000 04:09 PM

Items In Middle Earth
 
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Where was a beryl found and by whom?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Aragorn found one in the mud in the middle of the Last Bridge.

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Mithadan 09-21-2000 04:32 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Correct. BTW, the beryl is related to the emerald but tends to be lighter in color at gem quality and a milky light green below gem quality. Ask away.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Keeping with the items in Middle-Earth theme:

Besides the Ring, what was in the envelope that Bilbo left to Frodo?

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Mithadan 09-21-2000 08:16 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

His will?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

YEs. His will was in with the Ring. And 'other documents' most likely including those adoption papers. I'm sure that Lobelia went over those with a fine-tooth comb. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Mithadan 09-22-2000 06:24 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

I wonder if Hobbits had lawyers? What items were fashioned from or attributed to things which came to Middle Earth from beyond the circles of the world? I can think of four.

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Mithadan 09-27-2000 05:50 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

No takers? I'll wait one more day. Hint: three items are discussed in the Silmarillion. One is mentioned in LoTR.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Weren't the sword Aranruth and Anglachel made of meteoric material?

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Mithadan 09-27-2000 08:56 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Anglachel is one. Aranruth was Thingol's sword and was passed on through Elros to the Kings of Numenor. It was not stated to be made from meteoric material. However, Anglachel should lead you to two more. The last one is more obscure.

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Saulotus 09-27-2000 12:36 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Anglachel,
Anguriel,
The armor of Eol,
The memorial stone of Pharazon's defeat of Sauron at Umbar.

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Mithadan 09-27-2000 01:31 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

You got it, though I was thinking about Angrist, the knife, rather than Eol's armour. I forgot about the armour. Your question.

Since this is my 100th post, I'm celebrating by adding a sig. Hope it formats OK.

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OT: Comment on Mithadan's 100th post

Wow! 100 posts is a definite milestone at the Downs. We have a lot of registered users, but few that post more than a handful of remarks before they fade into the Void.

Though there are levels in between, the highest set level is 500 posts. At that moment you become a Ghost Prince of Cardolan and immediately eligible for a personal title. Of course, if your quality posts continue, we may have to consider dubbing you with a personal moniker sooner than 500.

Thanks, Mithadan!

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Saulotus 09-27-2000 09:13 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Shall we return to a previously untimely asked and retracted question then?

What little known item of art in Gondolin was rescued by Elendil and taken to Gondor at the fall of Numenor?

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 06:28 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Arrrgh! I was going to e-mail you on that one. If I have time, I'll hit the books. So many places to look tho.

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Saulotus 09-28-2000 08:54 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Then I will be of tremendous service with this:

Do NOT look in LOTR, HOB, AOTB, RGEO, UT, SIL, or HIST.

heh.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

You can be of even more tremendous service by supplying the meaning of your acronyms for the more acronymically-challenged, such as myself. <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> Thanks.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 10:49 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

&quot;Tremendous service&quot;, indeed (grumble)! What, perchance is RGEO (it took me several minutes to figure out Adventures of Tom Bombadil)? By process of elimination, I went to Letters, but, as you know, that volume has an excreble index (I don't have the new edition). As I'm not inclined to make guesses (although I have suspicions) and don't have time to research, I'll get back to you, O Detail Oriented One.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

I gotcha, Red...I'll put them all...even thought I know you know most of them.

LOTR - The Lord of the Rings
HOB - The Hobbit
AOTB - The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
RGEO - The Road Goes Ever On
UT - Unfinished Tales
SIL - The Silmarillion
HIST - The History of Middle-Earth (I guess all of them, if that is what HIST is)

That doesn't leave much...like maybe...Tolkien (Biography), A Tolkien Compass(?), The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth, The Letters of Tolkien....?? I dunno...

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

LOTR, HOB, AOTB, RGEO, UT, SIL, or HIST

For the Acro challenged:
Lord of the rings, Hobbit, Adventures of tom bombadil, Road goes ever on, Unfinished tales, Silmarillion, History (series).

Add to the list LETTERS as a place to NOT go.

I did say 'little known'...

The info is available in at least 2 other books not mentioned however.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 11:48 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

One hint too many. Talk about obscure! Menelluin. A plaque bearing the emblem of Idril Celebrindal , a corn flower pattern, &quot;saved from Gondolin and descending through Earendil and his son Elros to Numenor, whence it was saved by Elendil and taken to Gondor&quot;. Plate No. 47, Heraldic Devices, Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien. Nassssty riddle.

What's the second book?

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Saulotus 09-28-2000 11:51 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

You may ask away Mithadan.

(You saw the relation to retracted question on the Sun created by Finwe in Valinor now eh?)

Oh! You asked about the second book. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 12:29 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What item possessed by Elwe during the First Age ended up in Valinor during the Second Age?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

I believe this item was the Nauglamír.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

The Silmaril that was worn by Earendil.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 01:15 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

The Nauglamir/Silmaril was possessed by Elwe during the First Age but Earendil brought it to Valinor during the First Age. Since arguably it occaissionally returns to Valinor and may have been there at some point during the Second Age, I'll redefine the question. What item possessed by Elwe during the First Age did not make its way to Valinor until the Second Age?

This is a little tricksy. So, the latter part of the Second Age is a (very) little hint.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Elwe's sword Aranruth (carried by Ar-Pharazon to Valinor) is also possible.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 02:13 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Congrats on your 100th post Wight Saulotus.

Indeed, Aranruth was Thingol's sword and became the sword of the kings of Numenor. Although not stated expressly in Akallabeth, when Ar-Pharazon stepped onto the shores of Valinor and was buried in the landslides thst followed, Aranruth would have been buried with him. BTW, there's an excellent letter from Tolkien from 1958 explaining that the Valar had to lay down their governance of Arda for that time because their duty was to foster the Children of Iluvatar rather than make war upon them.

Ask away.

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Saulotus 09-28-2000 02:27 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

OOOOO! Me Wight! Me Wight now! Me Wight question now.

Keeping with the item questions:

What became of the Necklace that Isildur wore the One Ring upon?

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 03:43 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

It turned up in Saruman's chambers in Isengard, correct?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Correct. Ask away.

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Mithadan 09-28-2000 08:49 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What did Bladorthin try to buy from the dwarves?

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shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

Saulotus 09-28-2000 09:32 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Spears.

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Mithadan 09-29-2000 05:23 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Weird, I could have sworn I responded last night. Anyway, correct answer is spears, the delivery of which was interrupted by the arrival of a certain dragon. Your question.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What was the Silver Crown's casket made of?

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Mithadan 10-01-2000 08:55 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Black lebethron bound with silver.

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shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

Saulotus 10-08-2000 11:10 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Correct. Ask away.

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Mithadan 10-09-2000 05:40 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What item did Beren use as token of his right to enter Nargothrond?


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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Maybe the ring that Finrod Felagund gave to Barahir, his father?

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Mithadan 10-10-2000 05:25 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Correct. Ask on Hammer.

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were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>


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