Noldor: Halls of Mandos: NO
 

Does it seem fair that the Noldor go to the Halls of Mandos, when they were the ones actually acting when the Two Trees were destroyed. The Vanyar endured no hardship and yet recieved everlasting bliss on Valinor. The Noldor, in this young opinion, should be reborn and rewarded for their hardships. It also seems unfair for the likes of Gil-galad are punished for the wrong doings of Feanor and his house.

The spirits of all Elves who died would stay in the Halls of Mandos for a period of time before being re-embodied.
Most would eventually be re-embodied, though I suppose Feanor's stay in Mandos would be very long, giving him plenty of time to reflect on his actions.

I agree with u on that Pallando as we have discussed it in private before. I have a query though who thinks Frodo and the rest of the ring bearers actually made it to Valinor considering it says in the Silmarillion that "In Araman the Blessed Realm was shut against the Noldor and of the many messengers that in after days sailed into the west none came ever to Valinor."???

Pallando B.C. - Concerning Halls of Mandos:

as for the ban you mention, Alatar_69, it was cancelled after Earendil's, so yes, Frodo & Co reached Aman alright

BTW, most worm welcome to the downs, both of you [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I suppose Feanor's stay in Mandos would be very long

Yeah it was very long, as in he never got out and he eventually died there, or will depending on how you look at it.

I somehow doubt that Frodo was turned away from Aman when he was the defeater of Sauron. Perhaps this would mean nothing to the Valar as it seems all events do in ME in the Third Age. But i think that if Gandalf, a Maia vouched for him, he would have been admitted. Also, the elves had been leaving for years from the Grey Havens, so I don't see why they would turn them away.

Frodo, Bilbo, Sam, Gimli and Legolas did not go to Aman. They went to Tol Eressea. The Lonely Isle within sight of the shores of Aman. Except Earendil and Elwing no mortal would set foot on the Blessed Realm.

greetings,
lathspell

Quite right, lathspell, my typing of Aman above was accidental.

Actually they went to Undying Lands, or Aman, but not to Valinor. They went to Tól Eressea, as lathspell said. But the Lonely Isle was counted to Aman, I think? Not sure though..

And anyways, not very useful post. If somebody's from Finland, what's "pilkunviilaus" or "hiusten halkominen" in english? (For I don't think it's "hair-cutting"..)

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Afrodal Fenyar ]

it may be put that way too.

bombur is from Finland. AFAIK he's not accepting PMs, so try finding his recent posts (to make sure he will see the query. I remember him posting here
it was some time ago, so click his profile there to view his recent posts.

And, finally. most warm welcome to the Downs [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The phrase in english is 'hair-splitting' or more commonly 'splitting hairs'.