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Agarwaen 01-10-2003 12:17 AM

Dwarves' Fate?
 
Elves sail to Valinor or are killed, and of the fate of Men, little is known besides that they die and go ...you know, wherever... Does Tolkien ever address what happens to Dwarves when they die? Or was that not allowed for, since Dwarves are not one of the original Children of Iluvatar but were made by a Valar? This is one of those small things that's going to bug me; if anyone knows the answer I would be grateful.

Iargwath 01-10-2003 02:26 AM

This is a very good question Agarwaen. But Dwarvish morality is very different to that of any other race in Midde earth. What happens after their death remains a mystery. Elves have come to think that after their death, Dwarves return to the stone from which they were made of. But the Dwarves had a very different belief as opposed to the Elves.
According to Dwarvish tradition, Dwarves are gathered by Aulė (or Mahal) in a section in the Halls Of Mandos set aside specially for the Dwarves. And after the end of the world and the Last Battle they procalim that they will help Aulė in rebuilding Arda.

[ January 10, 2003: Message edited by: Iargwath ]

Deathwail 01-10-2003 03:30 AM

Iargwath pretty much covered it but if you want to read more the story of the making of the Dwarves and the lore of their fate can be read on page 43-46 in The Silmarllion second edition. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Agarwaen 01-11-2003 01:13 AM

wow awesome. thanks! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

the guy who be short 01-31-2003 05:56 AM

i really must read the silmarrilion again, i cant believe id forget something like where the dwarves go after they die
but thanx to all of you. im really into dwarves and have adopted a dwarvish name (derin, it just sounds right)
actually, in full its derin aran nu i oron
(derin king under the mountain)
so the dwarves are going to rebuild arda? they never really seemed like they care for the world to me, with all their digging and mining and excavations. and its not like they care for life, cutting down all those trees. so why are they going to help rebuild the world after they done so much damage to it? or is it to make up for doing so much damage to arda?

Iargwath 01-31-2003 06:15 AM

That is a fair question the guy who be short. But you must remember that it is a Dwarvish belief (so it is hard to determine if it is indeed fact). The best thing i could come up with as an answer was this:
One of the srongest characteristcs of the dwarves, was indeed the ability to craft. It would be moral for them to help Aule (their creator)to re build Arda for they already derive many skills in craft from him. It could also be part of their fate...who knows


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