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Forum: The Books 10-07-2006, 10:00 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 6,602
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In reply...

Raynor,

I may use the same quote to counter your ideas that Sauron was not whole heartedly looking for the One. It is sufficient also I think to show he has a great fixation for the One.

"But...
Forum: The Books 10-07-2006, 09:47 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 34,747
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In reply...

Raynor;

Originally quoted by Raynor;


Then to be pedantic they were still the "Firstborn". No?

As for the Orkor, you are right, they are a possibility. Well spotted indeed, I found a quote...
Forum: The Books 10-05-2006, 10:32 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 5,623
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Other "trash"...

I cannot add to this particular discussion, but I would like to introduce a few links containing certain texts written by a writer whom I, having read said text, hold in little regard. I hate...
Forum: The Books 10-05-2006, 08:07 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 34,747
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Gil-Galad, quite! Well said in part. Raynor ...

Gil-Galad, quite! Well said in part.
Raynor will you continue the discussion?

Anyone else is welcome too of course!!
Forum: The Books 10-05-2006, 08:03 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 6,602
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In repost with an 'e'...

Raynor I do see your point and you have explained it for me well. It is not about whether he 'could' cast it away, rather 'wouldn't' cast it away. However I was not using the forementioned quote to...
Forum: The Books 10-04-2006, 01:07 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 6,602
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In repost...

To start at the end and go to the beggining is what I will do here. For I in my personal opinion must agree with ninja's statement, and it would seem we are in favour of your second point Morsul, it...
Forum: The Books 10-01-2006, 10:51 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 14,217
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In answer.

Lindil you raise an interesting point, though I would dare to correct you and say that it was indeed Gandalf who discovered the mind and plans of Saruman before any. I say this on the existence of...
Forum: The Books 06-05-2006, 09:17 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 8,373
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien My take on the subject of the Ring in connection...

My take on the subject of the Ring in connection to Imperishable flame is in agreement to narfforc's.

1. The Flame Imperishable is with Iluvatar- it is the divine spark through which and by which...
Forum: The Books 06-05-2006, 08:36 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,751
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In regards to my last post, I would rather have...

In regards to my last post, I would rather have boldened the quote like this;

“That Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not known. Some held that they were not Trolls but...
Forum: The Books 06-05-2006, 08:07 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Rhod I would point out that his study of the...

Rhod I would point out that his study of the Ring lore was earlier than you think and the time at which he made the ring (if indeed he forged it) is a little complex. The One Ring and the three...
Forum: The Books 06-04-2006, 02:44 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien A quick post.

To raise Bethberry's point pertaining to 'sin' in the trilogy as a lost word because ther being no 'original sin'. There being no religion, I would counter that point by raising the existence of the...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2006, 03:23 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Do you not find this strange though nafforc, you...

Do you not find this strange though nafforc, you say,



But it was not the Valar who gave them this body. As I am sure you are aware they were required to take human form, there is no specific...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2006, 11:50 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien nafforc and Rhod, a deeply unsettling thought. I...

nafforc and Rhod, a deeply unsettling thought. I put to you the question,

"When was it created?"

Would we agree it was made before he left for Middle Earth on his 'mission' or while he was in...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 05-23-2006, 07:22 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 3,721
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Jimmylew and Elatan, as advised by Fingolfin II,...

Jimmylew and Elatan, as advised by Fingolfin II, you should refer to the "Of the Rings of Power" in the Silmarillion, I have however extracted what I think to be the most relevant passages for your...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2006, 07:03 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 8,366
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Formendacil, I permit you your amusement and my...

Formendacil, I permit you your amusement and my own. :) But is that really what it is saying? Allow me to be pedantic, it does state that he simply entered then left either! :D

"I passed the...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2006, 04:47 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien nafforc can we be certain though that Saruman...

nafforc can we be certain though that Saruman made it? Although there are quotes to show that he was skilled at craft, the ring we could surmise although there is no reference to this, could be one...
Forum: The Books 05-22-2006, 03:59 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 8,366
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien I would alert you to the fact that Aragorn did...

I would alert you to the fact that Aragorn did indeed also pass through Moria before their eventful and tragic passage.

"`I too once passed the Dimrill Gate,' said Aragorn quietly; 'but though I...
Forum: The Books 05-22-2006, 03:33 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 34,747
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Raynor But the Elves were the...

Raynor



But the Elves were the Firstborn, Men were known as the 'Followers', the term for me makes them the 'siblings' if you will. Yes Tolkien changes the chronology to give the Mannish...
Forum: The Books 05-22-2006, 03:01 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 23,760
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien My take on the matter is in agreement with the...

My take on the matter is in agreement with the majority of the comments made. You are agreed that his ring was one not nearly as potent as the Ruling Ring, it was in all intent and purposes a...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 05-22-2006, 01:57 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 3,553
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Quite, I think the only thought that comes out of...

Quite, I think the only thought that comes out of this as a possibility is the survival of the Witch King, however even that I would say was tenuous. The prophecy spoken by Glorfindel was that he...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 05-22-2006, 01:51 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 3,682
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien zifnab, very amusing! deal_with_it I do not...

zifnab, very amusing!

deal_with_it I do not mean to be rude and I apologise if my post comes across as such but you seem to be dwelling in a realm where everything must have a 'what if?'

Indeed...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 05-22-2006, 01:12 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 3,553
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien The plot for Book IV may indeed be different....

The plot for Book IV may indeed be different. However a question of this type is complete supposition, the list of inevitabilities a long one. However I think your trust in Merry remaining is...
Forum: The Books 05-20-2006, 06:31 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 13,901
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Thoughts

A query such as this produces a great list of suppositions, thus here is my two pennies worth.

Gandalf's sacrifice would not even have been needed. They would not have passed through Moria but...
Forum: The Books 05-20-2006, 06:09 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 6,484
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien In aswer to your question,

The Seven Dwarven clans are the Longbeards (whose Father was Durin, who awoke at Mt. Gundabad), the Broadbeams and the Firebeards (who awoke somewhere in the Blue Mountains, probably at Mt. Dolmed),...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 05-19-2006, 09:14 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 6,040
Posted By Mänwe
Tolkien Caution...

For me the natural choice was the Silmarillion, if I had known of the existance of the Silmarillion when I first encountered Lord of the Rings I would have read that first; due to the base history of...
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