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Forum: The Barrow-Downs 08-10-2024, 01:14 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 65,840
Posted By Huinesoron
8:10 am at GMT+1, we have 5721 guests. Breakdown...

8:10 am at GMT+1, we have 5721 guests. Breakdown across forums, top to bottom:

318/109/194
181/33/208
62/5
15
2/6/3/67
153/5

I don't know if it's useful, but I'm trying to log the numbers...
Forum: The Barrow-Downs 08-09-2024, 01:32 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 65,840
Posted By Huinesoron
On the front page, I just see the viewer count...

On the front page, I just see the viewer count next to each sub forum. So for instance "The Books (91 viewing)".

Currently we're at 6294 Guests, but only slight increases in each forum. So the bot...
Forum: The Barrow-Downs 08-09-2024, 08:35 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 65,840
Posted By Huinesoron
Thank you, Mithadan. Hopefully now we're in...

Thank you, Mithadan. Hopefully now we're in hiding things will settle down. If anyone still wants to see what's going on with Finrod-Zong, you can access the Google Doc of the current state of it...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 04:08 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay, timeline is stable again...

Okay, timeline is stable again (https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRKyl4K-vLPhenMK8CWIP32so3XtFCHlsWKN3fNfKgdcvT4bwnDa2tt0YzFPyot-pHoIhbxiG5ZVUE2/pub) with the revised Finweans.

On...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 07:15 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
I agree we're talking past each other. The rate...

I agree we're talking past each other. The rate of aging & the time Elves have their first children prior to the March is absolutely, completely irrelevant to the "Late Timeline". It's not mentioned!...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 03:46 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Reposting the Late Timeline for the new page....

Reposting the Late Timeline for the new page. (https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRKyl4K-vLPhenMK8CWIP32so3XtFCHlsWKN3fNfKgdcvT4bwnDa2tt0YzFPyot-pHoIhbxiG5ZVUE2/pub)



To cut the...
Forum: The Books 08-05-2024, 03:34 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Taking these in reverse order: 864 or 863 -...

Taking these in reverse order:

864 or 863 - I take the point that XVII.3(7) uses 2016, not 864/144, as the date of the Finding. That means Tolkien's error in XIII.1 was the reverse of what I...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 11:20 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
I think GA2 postdates XXII, specifically: ...

I think GA2 postdates XXII, specifically:



So 1330 is the later date.



We can do this very easily, anchoring off the Late Timeline's date for Olwe's departure, and it doesn't really work:
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 09:04 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 28,736
Posted By Huinesoron
Now that we've done the easy one... :D how do we...

Now that we've done the easy one... :D how do we feel about Meril, mother of Gil-Galad?



From the first, Gil-Galad was put in the story to become High King, and Meril was clearly created to be...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 08:51 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 81,723
Posted By Huinesoron
Maybe they didn't! The term is itinerant court...

Maybe they didn't! The term is itinerant court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itinerant_court), and what it means is that there is no capital - or rather, the capital is wherever the court happens to...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 05:15 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
So would I, but I can't find any reference to it....

So would I, but I can't find any reference to it. :) I am a bit worried by the whole "Celeborn of Alqualonde" story; my gut feeling is that it's later and therefore I should be using it, but it's so...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 03:41 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Thank you! But I have to disagree with Hostetter...

Thank you! But I have to disagree with Hostetter on "later". XVIII is solidly dated to 1965 (being written on calendar pages); HoME XI:350 talks about a family tree which CT dates to December 1959,...
Forum: The Books 08-01-2024, 09:44 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Given that I'm now on version 4 of the timeline,...

Given that I'm now on version 4 of the timeline, I've decided "Final Timeline" is clearly incorrect. Version 4 is therefore the Late Timeline...
Forum: The Books 07-31-2024, 05:59 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay! Birth and marriages of the House of Finwe...

Okay! Birth and marriages of the House of Finwe in Aman. Dates in bold have direct textual support; dates in italics are extrapolations from known dates and deduced 'standard intervals':
...
Forum: The Books 07-31-2024, 04:28 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
As Arvegil says, this was exactly what Tolkien...

As Arvegil says, this was exactly what Tolkien wanted desperately to do. There's whole chapters of NoME where he's struggling to justify to himself the extreme lengths between events that 1 VY = 144...
Forum: The Books 07-30-2024, 04:04 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
Depends on the dates. :) I think I know what...

Depends on the dates. :) I think I know what you're asking, see below in comments on your birthdate-list.



To directly convert between the two, just use the ratio (1495-1050):(888-850), or...
Forum: The Books 07-29-2024, 05:07 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
So! Excitingly, "adopt the AAm spacing of the...

So! Excitingly, "adopt the AAm spacing of the dates" starts out really strong. Shibboleth tells us Miriel lived until Feanor was "full-grown"; the Statute tells us Finwe waited 12+12+3 years before...
Forum: The Books 07-29-2024, 04:14 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 28,736
Posted By Huinesoron
It does, and this gave me pause; but it wasn't...

It does, and this gave me pause; but it wasn't until you asked that I came up with an answer that satisfied me. Maedhros and the twins have red hair, from their mother - but red (at least in humans)...
Forum: The Books 07-27-2024, 12:41 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 28,736
Posted By Huinesoron
Indeed it is! But he could have called himself...

Indeed it is! But he could have called himself Nelfin, or Maedhvo, or Rossadol, or Modoll if he'd really wanted. But he chose Maedhros, avoiding the politically charged -fin suffix. It is entirely...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 07-27-2024, 08:18 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 8,932
Posted By Huinesoron
On reflection, this is actually *really easy* (in...

On reflection, this is actually *really easy* (in principle): you just have to ignore 2 statements. The first is that there were 3100 years between the arrival in Aman and the end of the First Age;...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 07-26-2024, 04:00 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 8,932
Posted By Huinesoron
Looking through the sources, and ignoring the...

Looking through the sources, and ignoring the question of dates for a bit, the full "Tale of Years" would consist of:

- Annals of Aman (years before the Trees)
- Annals of Aman (Years of the...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 07-26-2024, 07:43 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 8,932
Posted By Huinesoron
The "Final Timeline" is taken entirely from...

The "Final Timeline" is taken entirely from sources after the Annals of Aman, or the Annals themselves (other than Maitirussa); it's all post-LotR 'late legendarium'.

Abandoning certain events is...
Forum: The Books 07-26-2024, 04:26 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 28,736
Posted By Huinesoron
I threw out "Maitarussa" without much thinking...

I threw out "Maitarussa" without much thinking about it there, but how would a Quenya form of Maedhros look, if it was derived directly from the original Primitive Quendian name?

S Maed...
Forum: The Books 07-26-2024, 02:42 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 266,181
Posted By Huinesoron
The answer to both of these is that this...

The answer to both of these is that this timescale was calculated by taking the AAm dates and adjusting only for the revised growth rates (ie, keeping everyone's ages the same at the various life...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 07-25-2024, 03:51 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 8,932
Posted By Huinesoron
Oh noooo, don't ask me. :eek: A consistent...

Oh noooo, don't ask me. :eek: A consistent timeline is a very involved project - look how many revisions we've done to the "Final Timeline (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=739062)"...
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