The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Search Forums
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Showing results 1 to 25 of 72
Search took 0.01 seconds.
Search: Posts Made By: Westerly Wizard
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-29-2003, 11:35 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 8,278
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Sauron's using the Ring to control the...

Sauron's using the Ring to control the Numenoreans does not really take away their culpability. As the story stands in the Akallabeth, the Numenoreans had fallen quite far, and then brought Sauron...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 11-29-2003, 10:28 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 32,584
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting However, in light of Treebeard's speculation that...

However, in light of Treebeard's speculation that the Uruk-hai are a mix of orcs and men, the passage from Morgoth's Ring is doubly indicting of Saruman.

The southerner at Bree does not have...
Forum: The Books 11-25-2003, 03:29 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 14,708
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Mae - "With the Valar came other spirits whos...

Mae - "With the Valar came other spirits whos being also began before the World, of the same order as the Valar but of less degree. These are the Maiar, the people of the Valar, and their servants...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 11-24-2003, 11:35 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 32,584
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Lost One - in HoME 10, Morgoth's Ring, there is a...

Lost One - in HoME 10, Morgoth's Ring, there is a text which gives Tolkien's final (or latest) view on the nature of Orcs and in it Tolkien himself states that Saruman had bred Orcs and Men.

And...
Forum: The Books 11-16-2003, 08:24 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 4,722
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Guinivere - I do not think that the non-chance...

Guinivere - I do not think that the non-chance instances in LotR can be accurately defined as the finger of Eru interfering. Rather, these simply represent the plan of Eru being effected, if that...
Forum: The Books 11-15-2003, 11:21 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 4,722
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting The Valar's method of helping in the War against...

The Valar's method of helping in the War against Sauron was by sending the Istari. Apparently realizing that in previous instances they had aided the Children of Iluvatar too greatly and directly,...
Forum: Novices and Newcomers 11-09-2003, 08:58 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 3,252
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting http://www.lotrlibrary.com/MT/emt.asp This...

http://www.lotrlibrary.com/MT/emt.asp

This page has a timeline of the occurrences before the Rising of the Sun. So I imagine you might be interested in seeing it.
Forum: The Books 11-09-2003, 08:50 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 6,681
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting I don't deny that the idea of Dagor Dagorath...

I don't deny that the idea of Dagor Dagorath certainly appears in the later writings of Tolkien--Aiwendil has of course shown two such places. However, these later references are in the forms of...
Forum: The Books 11-07-2003, 10:01 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 6,681
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting In the published Silmarillion then, it does not...

In the published Silmarillion then, it does not say anything of Turin having a role after his death, no mention of him having a part in the Dagor Dagorath, and all we know about the Dagor Dagorath is...
Forum: The Books 11-07-2003, 09:52 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 6,681
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting "But of Men in that day the prophecy speaks not,...

"But of Men in that day the prophecy speaks not, save of Turin only, and him it names among the Gods" (Shaping of Middle-Earth). This line is a bit ambiguous. It could mean that Turin is simply...
Forum: The Books 11-07-2003, 03:09 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 4,462
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting And perhaps the term Faerie could more accurately...

And perhaps the term Faerie could more accurately describe Eldamar, rather than all of Valinor. This would follow from the idea of Eldamar being Elvenhome, and that being essentially synonomous (in...
Forum: The Books 10-24-2003, 01:03 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 5,383
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Tolkien makes this point clear in Letter 156,...

Tolkien makes this point clear in Letter 156, where he writes:

"Gandalf really 'died', and was changed: for that seems to me the only real cheating, to represent anything that can be called...
Forum: The Books 10-23-2003, 04:00 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 3,919
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel would have been...

Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel would have been considered to be forsaking Middle-earth. Galadriel had been banned, she could not have returned at the time--her ban was only lifted with the refusal...
Forum: The Books 10-22-2003, 11:36 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 10,636
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting You might want to check this webpage, it kind of...

You might want to check this webpage, it kind of discusses the final sources from HoME listed above in perspective of all other sources on the Blue Wizards.
...
Forum: The Books 06-30-2003, 08:21 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 4,527
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting purgatory is a word Tolkien himself (more than...

purgatory is a word Tolkien himself (more than once) uses to describe the occassion. However, it is not simply the Christian idea of purging one's sins (and that is the basic idea, not the more in...
Forum: The Books 06-30-2003, 08:11 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,923
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Even if you were to only bring this idea to the...

Even if you were to only bring this idea to the level of applicability, and not allegory, I think it would be quite a poor reading of the passage to think it should be applied to the overthrow of an...
Forum: The Books 06-30-2003, 08:07 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 6,234
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Their bodies had "not long since passed away"...

Their bodies had "not long since passed away" since the bodies still exist. The body simply became wraithed, and permanently dwelt in the wraith world after their enslavement.

It is indeed...
Forum: The Books 06-16-2003, 08:27 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 16,460
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting neither the "Fall of Gondolin" nor the "Fall of...

neither the "Fall of Gondolin" nor the "Fall of Doriath" are really fanfics, though they are also not JRR's work really at all. They are more like narratives written by Christopher based entirely...
Forum: The Books 06-16-2003, 10:32 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 16,460
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting I think the Encyclopedia of Arda is quite wrong...

I think the Encyclopedia of Arda is quite wrong when they say that, for instance, there is little harm in thinking that the name Murezor was the Witch-king's name. Maybe if Tolkien simply forgot to...
Forum: The Books 06-10-2003, 03:21 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 11,983
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting I am under the impression that the lines of the...

I am under the impression that the lines of the Ring Verse, except the line on the Ring itself, were the creations of the elves after the fact, not actually said by Sauron.

And the Nazgul's bodies...
Forum: The Books 06-09-2003, 10:04 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,347
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting You can not blame the Ring for Boromir's desire...

You can not blame the Ring for Boromir's desire as you can blame it for Frodo's ultimate physical failure. Boromir had never even held the Ring, yet had turned his will toward possessing it from his...
Forum: The Books 06-09-2003, 08:30 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,347
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Galadriel is human in that she desire for power,...

Galadriel is human in that she desire for power, and a noble human in that she overcomes that desire when its effection is offered to her. Galadriel is not pure, but she is not ignoble as Boromir...
Forum: The Books 06-08-2003, 05:34 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,347
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting "I who was his father say that he would have...

"I who was his father say that he would have brought it to me" (ROTK "The Siege of Gondor"). Denethor is, of course, incorrect--Boromir would have kept the Ring himself as Gandalf notes--but his...
Forum: The Books 06-08-2003, 11:48 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,347
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Boromir, unfortunately, is not exactly shown to...

Boromir, unfortunately, is not exactly shown to be a noble man. He falls to the Ring because he desires what it offers, just as Faramir does not fall to it because he does not desire it.
Forum: The Books 06-07-2003, 03:56 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 8,347
Posted By Westerly Wizard
Sting Although no one can belittle the last actions of...

Although no one can belittle the last actions of Boromir before he dies, they hardly show that he had mastered the Ring's temptation. They are the last repentive efforts of a man who fell to the...
Showing results 1 to 25 of 72

 
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:06 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.