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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-27-2005, 01:41 PM
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Replies: 54
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davem
Made manifest in the destruction of the Ring....
Made manifest in the destruction of the Ring. Perhaps Eru allowed Sauron to use the power of the Secret Fire to make the Ring there as the most effective way to bring about his destruction. If Sauron... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-27-2005, 04:18 AM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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I suppose in a way I 've been running with some...
I suppose in a way I 've been running with some ideas, not necessarily because I'm committed to them, but because I got caught up in exploring them. I'm not sure we've strayed too far from the events... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-25-2005, 01:55 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
I don't see the Light as being Eru Himself but as...
I don't see the Light as being Eru Himself but as proceeding from Him. It is not His manifestation in Arda but rather his 'power' manifesting there. The Light is the Light which the Secret Fire... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-25-2005, 03:52 AM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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No. I said it was a 'locus' of spiritual evil. I...
No. I said it was a 'locus' of spiritual evil. I was (probably not clearly enough) drawing an analogy between the Ring as a phyisical object with a 'spiritual/metaphysical' aspect & an Elf/Human made... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-24-2005, 05:11 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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I didn't say the Silmarilli were evil. I said...
I didn't say the Silmarilli were evil. I said they were 'addictive' - or worse:they inspired desire in all who saw or heard of them, & their possessors (in most cases) were filled with obsessive... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-24-2005, 02:53 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
Perhaps the danger with the Palantiri is the same...
Perhaps the danger with the Palantiri is the same as with the Ring - the individual is tempted to use it to do good, but if they do, as Shippey has pointed out, they soon start to 'cut corners', bend... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-24-2005, 01:29 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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And that statement of Tolkien's seems to be...
And that statement of Tolkien's seems to be contradicted by Gandalf's statement: Gandalf is drawn to the Palantir not because of Sauron but in spite of him. He is drawn by the possibilities... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-24-2005, 06:32 AM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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Does anyone know how many Palantiri there were in...
Does anyone know how many Palantiri there were in total? Of course, there were seven brought to Middle Earth, but I would assume there were more left in Aman - the Elves surely would not have given... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-24-2005, 02:43 AM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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For me, the quotes I cited above preclude this...
For me, the quotes I cited above preclude this possibility. I don't believe that Eru was accessible in any manner (for Aiwendil: at least not yet).[/QUOTE] Ok. because we've strayed into the... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-23-2005, 03:18 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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I accept that the statement about the Secret Fire...
I accept that the statement about the Secret Fire in Valquenta is intended metaphysically, but I still can’t help wondering about the nature of the Fires of Orodruin. They clearly have the capacity... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-23-2005, 08:16 AM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
I wonder how 'safe' it is to say that?
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I wonder how 'safe' it is to say that? Assuming 'the heart of the world' & 'the heart of the earth' mean the same thing, then I think its entirely possible that the fires of Orodruin... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-22-2005, 02:44 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
I've been wondering about Mount Doom in the light...
I've been wondering about Mount Doom in the light of something said in The Palantiri in UT. There its stated that it was believed by the wise that he Palantiri were indestructible by any power that... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-21-2005, 03:11 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
That makes me think of the way the Grail legends...
That makes me think of the way the Grail legends developed. Originally it was Perceval (or Peredur) who achieved the Quest. Later he was replaced by the more saintly Galahad & turned into a kind of... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-21-2005, 02:34 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
Pippin does remind me of Perceval in the Grail...
Pippin does remind me of Perceval in the Grail Quest. He is the innocent 'child' who acts before he thinks. Its almost as if he (have I said this before?) has a deep trust in the Universe, & that... |
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Forum: Chapter-by-Chapter
02-21-2005, 01:36 PM
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Replies: 54
Views: 21,790
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davem
First thoughts:
Perhaps these...
First thoughts: Perhaps these quotes sum up the whole of this chapter. The Palantiri are dangerous things because they were the products of greater minds. Simply, Saruman was not smart... |
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