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Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 02-13-2007, 02:40 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
mhagain - you make a good argument. However, I...

mhagain - you make a good argument. However, I am far from convinced of this:



I do agree that the whole linguistic part of the debate hinges on this. If the name 'Rog' and the element '-rog'...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 02-02-2007, 03:24 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Thank you for the note, Aravanesse. I do not...

Thank you for the note, Aravanesse. I do not have Parma Eldalamberon XIII, nor am I familiar with its contents. Does it give any further information on the name "Rog"?

My inclination remains to...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-28-2003, 10:45 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Yes - that is worth noting. But I ought to make...

Yes - that is worth noting. But I ought to make two points:

1. Obviously, quite a bit was left out of AB. Q30 gives a much fuller account in all regards. It is also worth noting that Rog's...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-13-2003, 02:38 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Lindil wrote: You are right that this...

Lindil wrote:


You are right that this is a separate discussion. If you want to open a new thread (or reopen the infamous "Principles"), I'll certainly closely consider any proposal.

But I...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-12-2003, 09:30 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Lindil wrote: You are right. There is...

Lindil wrote:


You are right. There is trouble whithersoever we turn. But I think that the dubious nature of this particular idea (that "Rog" was a coarser or less cultured nickname) makes it...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-11-2003, 03:56 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting I realize this discussion seems to be turning...

I realize this discussion seems to be turning into the old beating of that proverbial dead horse; but I'd rather carry on the discussion too long than cut it off too soon and miss a possible...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 11-08-2003, 11:12 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Man of the Wold wrote: I can but repeat...

Man of the Wold wrote:


I can but repeat myself:

I don't see how it makes any difference what sort of a name it is. The trouble, if there is any, is with the word itself. And that means that,...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 10-22-2003, 10:57 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Lindil wrote: To me, this would appear...

Lindil wrote:


To me, this would appear to be a disadvantage.



Yes, but I don't see how it makes any difference what sort of a name it is. The trouble, if there is any, is with the word...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 10-21-2003, 03:00 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Unfortunately, I don't think any of these...

Unfortunately, I don't think any of these linguistic resources are going to help. The only discovery that could be made that would solve the problem would be the discovery of some later version of...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-05-2003, 09:25 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Well, I suppose I'm unlikely to convince you of...

Well, I suppose I'm unlikely to convince you of my point of view. But I remain firmly convinced that the specific series of texts left by Tolkien (in which can be seen the conscious development of a...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-05-2003, 03:58 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting It's most unfortunate that we can't seem to come...

It's most unfortunate that we can't seem to come to an agreement (or anywhere near one) on this matter. I would certainly be very sorry to see you simply shouted down by the majority.

As for...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-04-2003, 10:13 AM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Again, I don't see the point of doing this. ...

Again, I don't see the point of doing this. "Rog" does not mean "Demon". But even if it did, the name "Rog" from FoG has a different etymology, meaning something along the lines of "strength". ...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-03-2003, 02:57 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Mithadan wrote: That's true. As I think...

Mithadan wrote:


That's true. As I think about it, a footnote seems less and less of an option.



I no longer think we need to worry at all about a possible conflict with "demon". ...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-02-2003, 02:23 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Man-of-the-Wold wrote: If he had...

Man-of-the-Wold wrote:



If he had solid etymological or phonological reasons, why did he not name them? And if there are such reasons, why can we not discover them?

I think that...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-19-2003, 09:33 PM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting Lindil wrote: I must disagree. ...

Lindil wrote:


I must disagree. Tempting as it is, we cannot think of the extant writings of Tolkien that we have as being the same as the extant writings within Middle-earth, available to the...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-19-2003, 11:53 AM
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Posted By Aiwendil
Sting The problem with Rog as I see it now is this:...

The problem with Rog as I see it now is this: Christopher Tolkien states rather strongly that it is no good in the later mythology, and there is certainly something (at the very least) a bit...
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