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Forum: The Books 06-17-2016, 05:05 PM
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
That is plausible to an extent but we have to...

That is plausible to an extent but we have to keep in mind that the people ensnared by the Nine were (quoting from memory) 'the kings, warriors, and sorcerers of old'. There was no Númenórean king...
Forum: The Books 06-17-2016, 10:03 AM
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Views: 9,864
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, I just don't buy the idea that Sauron did...

Well, I just don't buy the idea that Sauron did take the One to Númenor. Tolkien's reasoning is pretty flawed in the letter, and he clearly did not consult what he had written in The Akallabêth...
Forum: The Books 06-11-2016, 02:17 PM
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Zigûr & Alcuin: I've just rechecked the...

@Zigûr & Alcuin:

I've just rechecked the context of letter #211, and it actually did lead to a revision of LotR on the whole O/A discrepancy that is discussed earlier.

Earlier Akallabêth...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 06-08-2016, 01:06 PM
Replies: 63
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Hm. I'd be fine with Celebrimbor's Teleri descent...

Hm. I'd be fine with Celebrimbor's Teleri descent if they were also great silver-smiths (I think for the Falmari that would be a late addition but the Sindar are also referred to as being great in...
Forum: The Books 06-08-2016, 12:15 PM
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, that image isn't sillier than the idea that...

Well, that image isn't sillier than the idea that spirit beings would live in a city made of stone (Valmar). Or that spirit people can be bound by physical chains (Angainor).

In any case, the...
Forum: The Books 06-08-2016, 11:28 AM
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Views: 9,864
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
That is actually easily resolved. Sauron didn't...

That is actually easily resolved. Sauron didn't take the One with him to Númenor in the first place. Both The Akallabêth and Of the Rings of Power tell us that Sauron took up the One again after he...
Forum: The Books 06-08-2016, 09:19 AM
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Views: 9,864
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
I think there are conflicting accounts when...

I think there are conflicting accounts when exactly Gil-galad gave Vilya and Narya to Elrond and Círdan, respectively, but nothing suggests Elrond only received Vilya from a dying Gil-galad. But I...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 06-07-2016, 04:10 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 13,115
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Sure, I get that. The point was just that above a...

Sure, I get that. The point was just that above a lot of talk years ago seemed to be basing doubt on the Feanorian heritage of Celebrimbor on the whole Elessar story.

I just wanted to point out...
Forum: The Books 06-07-2016, 06:59 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 3,993
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Alcuin: I certainly agree with you that and...

@Alcuin:

I certainly agree with you that and Clarke that uninitiated people might see and interpret technology as 'magic' if they live in a society in which 'magic' is a thing.
I mean, one can...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 06-06-2016, 07:48 PM
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, I guess the idea would mostly affect the...

Well, I guess the idea would mostly affect the Elessar story in whatever fashion it would be included. I'd propose to just add Celebrimbor being Curufin's son and Feanor's grandson when he is...
Forum: The Books 06-06-2016, 06:01 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 3,993
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Zigûr: I know that letter, the problem I've...

@Zigûr:

I know that letter, the problem I've is actually understanding the concept Tolkien tries to illustrate there. How exactly does 'rebelling against mortality' lead to a desire for power in...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 06-05-2016, 06:12 PM
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Views: 13,115
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
I know this very late but I really don't see...

I know this very late but I really don't see necessarily a contradiction between Celebrimbor being Curufin's sons born in Valinor and him abiding in Gondolin in the First Age.

Celebrimbor was...
Forum: The Books 06-05-2016, 05:44 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 3,993
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Tolkien can, at times, cause some problems...

Tolkien can, at times, cause some problems reinterpreting himself. I mean, does anybody really see the topic of 'the Machine' in connection to the LotR the same way as he does?

I've actually...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 05-29-2016, 04:29 AM
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Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Thank you, Findegil! I'd gladly begin by...

Thank you, Findegil!

I'd gladly begin by assessing whatever you already have done. The impression I get is that you have done some work in some fashion in some places I cannot yet access ;-).
...
Forum: The Books 05-28-2016, 06:35 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
I'm not contesting any of that. And I also did...

I'm not contesting any of that. And I also did not say that women in Tolkien's work aren't allowed to fight. The problem with this special fight is that we have to apply some interpretation to...
Forum: The Books 05-27-2016, 02:16 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, but that wasn't them fighting each other....

Well, but that wasn't them fighting each other. That was Finrod trying to maintain the magical disguise that made Beren and him appear like Orcs.

How exactly that works in detail isn't make...
Forum: The Books 05-27-2016, 06:32 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 9,237
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Alcuin: Yeah, Dior wouldn't be diminished...

@Alcuin:

Yeah, Dior wouldn't be diminished in his divine bloodline, power, or abilities by not inheriting the fate of the Eldar from his parents. When Beren and Lúthien returned to Middle-earth...
Forum: The Books 05-27-2016, 06:07 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Morthonon: Yeah, Lúthien played an...

@Morthonon:

Yeah, Lúthien played an important part in Beren's heroics. But she is still just his helper in the quest, and the means she uses to help him are clearly identifiable as connected to...
Forum: The Books 05-26-2016, 02:38 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@Morthoron: I think we are not on the same...

@Morthoron:

I think we are not on the same page. I'm not trying to diminish Galadriel's power or status. If Tolkien calls her queen then she was a queen. And this also no chauvinist attitude - I'm...
Forum: The Books 05-26-2016, 02:04 AM
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Views: 9,237
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
@William Cloud Hicklin: Certainly, Thingol...

@William Cloud Hicklin:

Certainly, Thingol personally changed his mind on mind in the wake of the entire Beren-Lúthien episode. But he either failed to notice that there were counselors at his own...
Forum: The Books 05-25-2016, 12:20 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
I've just listened to the audiobook version of...

I've just listened to the audiobook version of Sil_77 again and Ingwe, Finwe, and Elwe are clearly only described as lords of their particular tribes at this point.

So perhaps we should go with...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 05-25-2016, 07:40 AM
Replies: 86
Views: 18,638
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
In my it is pretty obvious that Manwe's dealings...

In my it is pretty obvious that Manwe's dealings with the Balrogs in Utumno actually refer to a physical fight and their subsequent defeat.

Considering that this was the War of the Powers we can...
Forum: The Books 05-24-2016, 03:07 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, if you put it like that you really make the...

Well, if you put it like that you really make the man look like a clown in comparison to her. But we should keep in mind that he was at least as old as she was, and presumably resided with her in...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2016, 05:49 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Perhaps I exaggerated a little bit there. What I...

Perhaps I exaggerated a little bit there. What I meant to say is that Celeborn was the man and the Lord of Lórien. He wore the pants - at least publicly. How Galadrien and Celeborn's private...
Forum: The Books 05-23-2016, 12:00 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,535
Posted By Gothmog, LoB
Well, what Feanor did should/would actually be...

Well, what Feanor did should/would actually be seen by the Elves as a presumptuous messing with tradition. That is, if we take the Elves seriously as an immortal race whose very nature was to be,...
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