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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-24-2003, 11:32 PM
Replies: 45
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Sting yes, and this is one of the reasons that i...

yes, and this is one of the reasons that i believe that orcs are immortal, and bred from elves. Otherwise, why would what saruman did (mix orcs with men to make the goblin-men) be so horrible? And...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-22-2003, 07:50 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting That is true, all i was saying was that you can...

That is true, all i was saying was that you can live to 142 and not be immortal. Hobbits live longer than men, but no one would say they were immortal.
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-22-2003, 01:00 PM
Replies: 45
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Sting PMing is more effective than posting. And,...

PMing is more effective than posting.

And, although i believe in orcish immortality, 142 years does not imply immortality. The men on Numenor lived that long, at least the noblemen.
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-16-2003, 09:34 AM
Replies: 45
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Sting If you read my post carefully, I said that...

If you read my post carefully, I said that Morgoth could not make the orcs MORTAL, not he could not make the IMMORTAL. What I was saying was, if they are corrupted elves, they cannot be mortal. And...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-15-2003, 07:20 PM
Replies: 45
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Sting How can you be immortal but only until the end of...

How can you be immortal but only until the end of the first age? If you die at a certain time, you are not immortal.
Also, mortality is a GIFT from illuvatar. How could Morgoth or Sauron BESTOW...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-15-2003, 05:45 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting If the orcs were, in a way, controlled by sauron...

If the orcs were, in a way, controlled by sauron or morgoth, then they would reproduce.




MY THEORY
The quote about elven reproduction is true, but this fact is true because the elves have a...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-13-2003, 10:15 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting Yes, well, I have started a topic about it, so...

Yes, well, I have started a topic about it, so that this discussion does not go too off topic. If you want to answer me, go to that thread (Man/Orc Reproduction)...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-12-2003, 09:47 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting False, you can take elvish blood away. In all...

False, you can take elvish blood away. In all elf-human marriages, the elf becomes mortal. And the children have a choice. I wonder what happens to the children- do they make a choice, or does sauron...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-11-2003, 09:08 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting Yes, that is helpful to know. Unfortunately, I...

Yes, that is helpful to know. Unfortunately, I have not read morgoths ring, so I was not aware of this. Even so, i do not find it impossible that morgoth has found a way to force the orcs to...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-11-2003, 08:12 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting That is true, but it is possible that there is an...

That is true, but it is possible that there is an elite force of elvish orcs hidden somewhere. I would think that elvish orcs would be of better "quality" than human orcs because they have longer to...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-10-2003, 08:00 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting OK, yes, thank you for correcting my error....

OK, yes, thank you for correcting my error. However, I stand by my belief that not all orcs are immortal, only some. The goblin-men are obviously not immortal, but other than that, I am not sure any...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-09-2003, 08:21 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Shield What makes you think the orc chiefs would be...

What makes you think the orc chiefs would be dead? Since they are probably mostly cowards, they would run away and not die... Actually, I think they are the most likely to survive. And only the orcs...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 12-09-2003, 08:09 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 50,771
Sting Welss, the orcs bred from Quendi are immortal,...

Welss, the orcs bred from Quendi are immortal, but hte orcs bred from men are not. The Uruk-Hai, for example, are not immoortal, because it states that they were bred from orcs and men (somewhere). I...
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