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Forum: The Movies 04-27-2004, 07:03 AM
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Posted By The Saucepan Man
Ring But what about the Ring?

I agree that Gollum's craving for the Ring might be satisfied by his possession of it. And if that were the only force at work, then I would agree with you (and the Professor ;) ). But there is...
Forum: The Movies 04-25-2004, 06:42 PM
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Views: 7,151
Posted By The Saucepan Man
White-Hand Fine. All I am saying is that the debate scene...

Fine. All I am saying is that the debate scene in TTT suggests that Smeagol might have been able to repent. But then he sees himself as having been betrayed by Frodo at Henneth Annun, and the...
Forum: The Movies 04-23-2004, 08:05 PM
Replies: 20
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Posted By The Saucepan Man
Thumbs up Yes, you're right. Sam does apologise. In which...

Yes, you're right. Sam does apologise. In which case, the tragedy is not in the fact that Gollum's possible redemption is lost by Sam's reaction. Gollum could have accepted Sam's apology and the...
Forum: The Movies 04-22-2004, 06:42 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 7,151
Posted By The Saucepan Man
I think people (at least those who have not read...

I think people (at least those who have not read the book) will be more prepared to accept Frodo's reaction, resulting as it does from a combination of Gollum's machinations and the increasing hold...
Forum: The Movies 04-22-2004, 09:35 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 7,151
Posted By The Saucepan Man
Silmaril Actually, I find it quite easy to imagine people...

Actually, I find it quite easy to imagine people coming out of the cinema saying "I don't like how that Sam turned the cute Gollum dude against them". And that would have provided yet another bone...
Forum: The Movies 04-21-2004, 03:16 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 7,151
Posted By The Saucepan Man
Pipe But what about Sam?

Yes, it could have been done like that. But then Sam would have been perceived as being to blame for the "loss of Gollum's soul". It is much easier for this to be portrayed as the misunderstanding...
Forum: The Movies 04-21-2004, 02:53 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 7,151
Posted By The Saucepan Man
Ring The quality of mercy is not strained ... or is it?

Interesting article, Angmar.

It seems to me that Jackson took the moment forward to the Smeagol/Gollum debate in TTT, when Smeagol banishes Gollum only to be "betrayed" (as he sees it) by Frodo at...
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