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Forum: The Books 01-17-2025, 08:18 AM
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Posted By Huinesoron
I don't think so; nothing new has come up, and...

I don't think so; nothing new has come up, and the Late Timeline (https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRKyl4K-vLPhenMK8CWIP32so3XtFCHlsWKN3fNfKgdcvT4bwnDa2tt0YzFPyot-pHoIhbxiG5ZVUE2/pub)...
Forum: The Books 08-22-2024, 08:29 AM
Replies: 102
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Posted By Huinesoron
It's not a problem. You came across as abrupt but...

It's not a problem. You came across as abrupt but not angry. Hopefully you've managed to sleep now?



Interesting... I went back and looked at the BoLT version, and the course of the "light of...
Forum: The Books 08-21-2024, 01:54 AM
Replies: 102
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Posted By Huinesoron
There are 3264 years from the arrival to the end...

There are 3264 years from the arrival to the end of the Age. That's far enough off that I can't honestly say it matches the 3100 XVIII statement, especially since that quote says it was probably...
Forum: The Books 08-20-2024, 04:18 AM
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Posted By Huinesoron
Lies, lies, lies. Of course I went ahead and did...

Lies, lies, lies. Of course I went ahead and did it.

The Unified Tolkien Timeline (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uN9F0FmBjkQCm7ezxqr0lBkLTTHjmF_oRRopWitt6ds/pubhtml) runs from the entry...
Forum: The Books 08-19-2024, 03:24 AM
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Posted By Huinesoron
Yes, you could do any of those things. "Three...

Yes, you could do any of those things. "Three Ages" is the only one for which there are multiple sources tied to it (the AAm entry for his release, and the GA entry for Luthien's birth), so I have...
Forum: The Books 08-10-2024, 04:52 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
The Master wants updateses, yes he does. Nice...

The Master wants updateses, yes he does. Nice Master, very kind to poor Huinessssoron.



Agreed, after checking the source. Which is only 1 SY off where I already had it.



The timeline...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 04:08 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay, timeline is stable again...

Okay, timeline is stable again (https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRKyl4K-vLPhenMK8CWIP32so3XtFCHlsWKN3fNfKgdcvT4bwnDa2tt0YzFPyot-pHoIhbxiG5ZVUE2/pub) with the revised Finweans.

On...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 07:15 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
I agree we're talking past each other. The rate...

I agree we're talking past each other. The rate of aging & the time Elves have their first children prior to the March is absolutely, completely irrelevant to the "Late Timeline". It's not mentioned!...
Forum: The Books 08-06-2024, 03:46 AM
Replies: 102
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Posted By Huinesoron
Reposting the Late Timeline for the new page....

Reposting the Late Timeline for the new page. (https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRKyl4K-vLPhenMK8CWIP32so3XtFCHlsWKN3fNfKgdcvT4bwnDa2tt0YzFPyot-pHoIhbxiG5ZVUE2/pub)



To cut the...
Forum: The Books 08-05-2024, 03:34 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Taking these in reverse order: 864 or 863 -...

Taking these in reverse order:

864 or 863 - I take the point that XVII.3(7) uses 2016, not 864/144, as the date of the Finding. That means Tolkien's error in XIII.1 was the reverse of what I...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 11:20 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
I think GA2 postdates XXII, specifically: ...

I think GA2 postdates XXII, specifically:



So 1330 is the later date.



We can do this very easily, anchoring off the Late Timeline's date for Olwe's departure, and it doesn't really work:
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 05:15 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
So would I, but I can't find any reference to it....

So would I, but I can't find any reference to it. :) I am a bit worried by the whole "Celeborn of Alqualonde" story; my gut feeling is that it's later and therefore I should be using it, but it's so...
Forum: The Books 08-02-2024, 03:41 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Thank you! But I have to disagree with Hostetter...

Thank you! But I have to disagree with Hostetter on "later". XVIII is solidly dated to 1965 (being written on calendar pages); HoME XI:350 talks about a family tree which CT dates to December 1959,...
Forum: The Books 08-01-2024, 09:44 AM
Replies: 102
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Posted By Huinesoron
Given that I'm now on version 4 of the timeline,...

Given that I'm now on version 4 of the timeline, I've decided "Final Timeline" is clearly incorrect. Version 4 is therefore the Late Timeline...
Forum: The Books 07-31-2024, 05:59 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay! Birth and marriages of the House of Finwe...

Okay! Birth and marriages of the House of Finwe in Aman. Dates in bold have direct textual support; dates in italics are extrapolations from known dates and deduced 'standard intervals':
...
Forum: The Books 07-31-2024, 04:28 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
As Arvegil says, this was exactly what Tolkien...

As Arvegil says, this was exactly what Tolkien wanted desperately to do. There's whole chapters of NoME where he's struggling to justify to himself the extreme lengths between events that 1 VY = 144...
Forum: The Books 07-30-2024, 04:04 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Depends on the dates. :) I think I know what...

Depends on the dates. :) I think I know what you're asking, see below in comments on your birthdate-list.



To directly convert between the two, just use the ratio (1495-1050):(888-850), or...
Forum: The Books 07-29-2024, 05:07 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
So! Excitingly, "adopt the AAm spacing of the...

So! Excitingly, "adopt the AAm spacing of the dates" starts out really strong. Shibboleth tells us Miriel lived until Feanor was "full-grown"; the Statute tells us Finwe waited 12+12+3 years before...
Forum: The Books 07-26-2024, 02:42 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
The answer to both of these is that this...

The answer to both of these is that this timescale was calculated by taking the AAm dates and adjusting only for the revised growth rates (ie, keeping everyone's ages the same at the various life...
Forum: The Books 07-24-2024, 09:50 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay, I got this stuck in my head, so: what if we...

Okay, I got this stuck in my head, so: what if we converted the Finwean births into the new aging system?

From AAm, plus the statement in VII that Feanor was begotten 9 VY before he was born, we...
Forum: The Books 07-24-2024, 06:50 AM
Replies: 102
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Posted By Huinesoron
There are so many places I want to wriggle things...

There are so many places I want to wriggle things into SY 1 or 72. In this case, technically all Tolkien wrote is that Men awoke in VY 1075 - a span of 144 SY. But he did generally mean "at the...
Forum: The Books 07-23-2024, 04:37 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
Okay! I've gone back and redone all of the...

Okay! I've gone back and redone all of the calculations, and reassembled the Timeline for the third time...
Forum: The Books 07-22-2024, 05:15 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
I prefer it myself, and for the same reason. But...

I prefer it myself, and for the same reason. But I don't feel confident saying it's definitely what Tolkien preferred.



Okay, I've had to take a step back and think about this. if the...
Forum: The Books 07-22-2024, 11:25 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
I disagree. The timeline is sourced to NoME...

I disagree. The timeline is sourced to NoME 1.XIII(1), in which the key error (SY 2016 = VY 864/144) is actually expressed as "end of VY 864". Tolkien was clearly treating the VY as primary, so for...
Forum: The Books 07-21-2024, 05:32 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 86,306
Posted By Huinesoron
It does not, which is one reason it isn't...

It does not, which is one reason it isn't anywhere near the New Silmarillion forum. The reason I've excluded Galadriel is that "Galadriel is older than the Silmarils" and "Galadriel is a teenager at...
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