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Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 10-07-2023, 04:02 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 33,982
Posted By Aiwendil
BL-EX-10: I have to apologize; it...

BL-EX-10:



I have to apologize; it seems the version of our chapter that I have on my laptop may not be up to date. It had a slightly different version with those lines part of the direct...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 10-06-2023, 08:16 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 33,982
Posted By Aiwendil
On the subject of the provenance of the texts, I...

On the subject of the provenance of the texts, I agree with Findegil.

BL-RG-00.7: I don’t really agree that “magic” must be purely negative in its connotations. I’m not sure about “by masons”,...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-29-2023, 08:14 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 33,982
Posted By Aiwendil
BL-SL-03: While I don't necessarily think that...

BL-SL-03: While I don't necessarily think that every instance of "god" used of the Valar must be excised, I think its use here from the mouth of an Elf is sufficient reason to delete this couplet.
...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-29-2023, 10:51 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 33,982
Posted By Aiwendil
You're quite right about line 1241, and I'm not...

You're quite right about line 1241, and I'm not sure how I missed that before. However, I don't think your proposal works grammatically. "In magic fast forever bound" is an adjective phrase...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-12-2023, 07:56 AM
Replies: 95
Views: 45,027
Posted By Aiwendil
This works for me, except that I think it should...

This works for me, except that I think it should be "Menelmacar", as it is pure Quenya (not Valarin-derived like Melkor or Tulkas).
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-12-2023, 07:51 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 6,995
Posted By Aiwendil
I haven't even looked at this chapter yet. I do...

I haven't even looked at this chapter yet. I do honestly feel that proceeding in an orderly way and focusing on one chapter at a time has served us better than trying to work on everything...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-12-2023, 07:36 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 18,460
Posted By Aiwendil
But where in our draft are you proposing changing...

But where in our draft are you proposing changing "First War" to "First Battle"?
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-06-2023, 10:02 AM
Replies: 149
Views: 59,983
Posted By Aiwendil
I had forgotten about Letter 153. I agree that...

I had forgotten about Letter 153. I agree that this justifies the statement about Tuor, and I think Findegil's suggestion for the text there is good.
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-06-2023, 10:00 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 33,181
Posted By Aiwendil
Just realizing now that there were changes to our...

Just realizing now that there were changes to our text from 2019 that I haven't looked at yet. I will review these when I get a chance. I am, however, on vacation with limited Internet access for...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 09-02-2023, 09:08 PM
Replies: 133
Views: 58,177
Posted By Aiwendil
It's that last part that I don't fully agree...

It's that last part that I don't fully agree with. Tolkien may very well have written CtH with the intention that the Dwarves of Belegost took part in the Ruin of Doriath without it occurring to him...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-31-2023, 10:22 AM
Replies: 149
Views: 59,983
Posted By Aiwendil
It seems to me that for precisely this reason, we...

It seems to me that for precisely this reason, we should omit the statement from our version. In any case, enough had changed an been elaborated in Tolkien's thinking about the natures of Elves and...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-31-2023, 09:30 AM
Replies: 133
Views: 58,177
Posted By Aiwendil
'Concerning "The Hoard"' says only that Thingol...

'Concerning "The Hoard"' says only that Thingol sent for the Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost. It does not say that the emissaries and craftsmen who came to Menegroth were from both cities, much less...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-31-2023, 09:18 AM
Replies: 93
Views: 39,557
Posted By Aiwendil
In my opinion, we've been over this and over...

In my opinion, we've been over this and over this, and the solution we came up with was the best available. You might be right about why Tolkien used 'Demon' in the 'Glorfindel' text. But it's...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-30-2023, 07:56 PM
Replies: 133
Views: 58,177
Posted By Aiwendil
In none of these do we have a sequence of events....

In none of these do we have a sequence of events. "Thingol was slain and the Thousand Caves were plundered" does not tell us in what order those two events occurred, nor does "His halls were...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-30-2023, 06:59 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 54,905
Posted By Aiwendil
"Melcor" and "Tulcas" do occur, but even in very...

"Melcor" and "Tulcas" do occur, but even in very late texts we also have "Melkor" (e.g. in the Shibboleth inf 1968 and in several of the 1972-73 texts given in "Last Writings"). Valarin-derived...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-29-2023, 09:43 AM
Replies: 133
Views: 58,177
Posted By Aiwendil
RD-EX-54: That the ruin of Doriath led to an...

RD-EX-54: That the ruin of Doriath led to an estrangement between Dwarves and Elves is not, I think, in dispute. The part I object to is "and drawn more nigh in friendship to the {kin}[following] of...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-26-2023, 01:19 PM
Replies: 84
Views: 44,209
Posted By Aiwendil
I agree about {Ingwion}[Ingwil]. The...

I agree about {Ingwion}[Ingwil].

The Hador/Magor issue is a big change, and I'd like to personally scour HoMe a little bit to satisfy myself about it. I agree, however, that the mentions of Hador...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-23-2023, 05:06 PM
Replies: 149
Views: 59,983
Posted By Aiwendil
Sorry, I must be tired today - for some reason...

Sorry, I must be tired today - for some reason even though you wrote "the Third Kinslaying" I thought you were saying Amrod did not die at Losgar. We're in agreement.
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-23-2023, 01:00 PM
Replies: 149
Views: 59,983
Posted By Aiwendil
Oh, I was confused because you wrote: ...

Oh, I was confused because you wrote:



But we agree, it should be Amrod. I'm not sure how that got missed before.
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM
Replies: 149
Views: 59,983
Posted By Aiwendil
1) I really don't think this is true. The point...

1) I really don't think this is true. The point of the story is that Amrod, or Ambarato, is indeed Umbarato, the fated one. In his notes on the "Shibboleth", CT notes:



So when the story of...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-22-2023, 01:45 PM
Replies: 175
Views: 76,036
Posted By Aiwendil
I'll try to take a look at that chapter again and...

I'll try to take a look at that chapter again and see where we were.

There's also the issue of the Ruin of Doriath in light of "Concerning 'The Hoard'" being revealed last year.

I hope Findegil...
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-20-2023, 04:42 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 13,017
Posted By Aiwendil
I believe the First Phase of LQ is from about...

I believe the First Phase of LQ is from about 1951, while the latest version of the Akallabeth is from c. 1958.
Forum: The Books 08-18-2023, 09:54 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 2,282
Posted By Aiwendil
Well, we know that Bilbo was an unreliable...

Well, we know that Bilbo was an unreliable narrator in at least one instance - in the version of "Riddles in the Dark" that appeared in the first edition of The Hobbit. Of course, this was not an...
Forum: The Barrow-Downs 08-17-2023, 04:44 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,617
Posted By Aiwendil
I've had that issue for years, but if I right...

I've had that issue for years, but if I right click and open in a new tab, it works.
Forum: Translations from the Elvish - Public Forum 08-17-2023, 09:36 AM
Replies: 175
Views: 76,036
Posted By Aiwendil
Welcome (back), Val Balmer! Yes, the...

Welcome (back), Val Balmer!



Yes, the forum was migrated from a different place a while back, and the old board used html while this one uses BBCode, so all the old html is broken. Kind of...
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