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Originally posted by Voronwe:
<STRONG>I've always thought that the two themes that were played before Iluvatar were not themes of Elves and Men, but that one was the theme that Melkor introduced (the vain theme), and the other the theme of the children of Iluvatar (both Elves and Men together). In my eyes the 'triumphant notes' being 'woven into the solemn pattern' illustrated that any evil proceeding from Melkor worked in the end only to Illuvatar's greater glory.
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I'm stunned. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] After reading through carefully and even charting it out, I find myself in agreement with you, Voronwe. I stand corrected.
So the sorrow is experienced by ALL good beings, not just the Eldar. That makes sense, of course. Nevertheless, as Mat so skillfully lays out, the longevity of the Eldar makes their sorrow deeper than that of men. And therefore the sorrow of the Valar is deeper yet! Cool! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] ahem [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] got carried away there -cough cough -