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Old 05-17-2003, 03:58 PM   #9
Tinuviel87
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Okay here we go...
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Also, if Morgoth was long gone by then, wouldn't Sauron be the master? Maybe, in that case, Gandalf was talking about someone else?
Nope, because Morgoth/Melkor was the one who taught him everything he knew and as stated earlier even with Morgoth's demise he still wasn't tottally gone. Gandlaf was most definitely referring to Morgoth, or if you wanted to get nitpicky, all the evil in the world, since evil can never truly be erased.

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I'm really not sure about this, just trying to use logic as reading the Silmarillion doesn't really work for me
What?! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] no I'm just joking...sort of...you should really take another stab at it though, it's quite amazing and it will clear up a lot of the unanswered questions of LotR.

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By HE I actually meant Eru. I read a little part about him in the beginning of the Silmarillion, but everything is created from something. I think it mentioned something about Eru coming from outside of all time, but still, he had to have been created somehow
Eru is to ME as God is to us in our real world. Eru created Melkor just as God created Satan...they were both sort of like the bad seeds...so we don't technically konw where Eru comes from but it's not really important I suppose...
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