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**The Saucepan Man** · 05-20-2003, 04:40 PM

They were two separate passes.

The pass which Bilbo, Gandalf and the Dwarves tried to take in the Hobbit was the High Pass, slightly north-east of Rivendell.

The pass which the Fellowship tried to take in LotR was the Redhorn Pass further south, below the mountain Caradhras (also known as Redhorn).

I believe (although I cannot now recall for sure) that the Fellowship did not take the High Pass because it was impassable at that time of year (whereas it was thought that the Redhorn Pass would be passable).

05-20-2003, 04:40 PM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	They were two separate passes. The pass which Bilbo, Gandalf and the Dwarves tried to take in the Hobbit was the High Pass, slightly north-east of Rivendell. The pass which the Fellowship tried to take in LotR was the Redhorn Pass further south, below the mountain Caradhras (also known as Redhorn). I believe (although I cannot now recall for sure) that the Fellowship did not take the High Pass because it was impassable at that time of year (whereas it was thought that the Redhorn Pass would be passable). __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!