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it's just that I can't find the book and am trying to remember without it
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Ha ha! Sounds kinda like guessing. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Don't worry about it, I'm just one of those weirdos that almost always hates posting something that has any chance of being wrong, so whenever I have a guess about something I scour the book to find the exact quote to make sure I'm right, and if I don't find it I usually don't have the guts to guess.
And nope, it's not Gandalf.
(by the way, your first response wasn't too far off)