obloquy, you’re probably thinking of stuff like this from UT:
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But Círdan from their first meeting at the Grey Havens divined in him the greatest spirit and the wisest; and he welcomed him with reverence, and he gave to his keeping the Third Ring, Narya the Red.
In his heart Saruman recognized the great power and the strange "good fortune" that went with Gandalf.
Saruman soon became jealous of Gandalf, and this rivalry turned at last to a hatred, the deeper for being concealed, and the more bitter in that Saruman knew in his heart that the Grey Wanderer had the greater strength, and the greater influence upon the dwellers in Middle-earth, even though he hid his power and desired neither fear nor reverence.
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These quotes served as part of the foundation of my erstwhile Gandalf=Manwë theory.