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**lindil** · 06-02-2001, 11:06 PM

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Re: The 'Gift' of men and the Athrabeth

Voronwe,
excellent questions & I agree completly w/ your assesment of the Atrhrabeth' stature in the Legendarium. Nowhere else are we taken so far into conversation w/ one of the eldar and Finrod , as the most sympathetic to the edain was perfect.

As to which view, JRRT states in several places that the views of the characters are not nec. the the truth witness his disavowal of the orcs being corrupted elves, which still has several occurences in the text,it represents popular belief , but not the truth.

So I think any conception of the Silm would keep current references as they are in the final versions as given mostly in V, X,XI and UT but leave the Athrabeth in the last appendix slot as JRRT designated [ and CRRT competly failed to do?!] for my own privazte idea on just what would and would not be in a new silm see the thread entitled 'A new silmarillion -proposal and outline [or something like that. It sketches out chapters hints at source texts and poses a few questions.and lists my ideas on appendices.

lindil

Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on a new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://beta.ezboard.com/bosanwekenta" >Osanwe-Kenta</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>

06-02-2001, 11:06 PM	#6
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 604</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: The 'Gift' of men and the Athrabeth Voronwe, excellent questions & I agree completly w/ your assesment of the Atrhrabeth' stature in the Legendarium. Nowhere else are we taken so far into conversation w/ one of the eldar and Finrod , as the most sympathetic to the edain was perfect. As to which view, JRRT states in several places that the views of the characters are not nec. the the truth witness his disavowal of the orcs being corrupted elves, which still has several occurences in the text,it represents popular belief , but not the truth. So I think any conception of the Silm would keep current references as they are in the final versions as given mostly in V, X,XI and UT but leave the Athrabeth in the last appendix slot as JRRT designated [ and CRRT competly failed to do?!] for my own privazte idea on just what would and would not be in a new silm see the thread entitled 'A new silmarillion -proposal and outline [or something like that. It sketches out chapters hints at source texts and poses a few questions.and lists my ideas on appendices. lindil Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on a new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://beta.ezboard.com/bosanwekenta" >Osanwe-Kenta</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.