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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Literary devices and plans to start
Mithadan said: "But some matters will need "correction" such as hordes of Balrogs being
present and metal dragons etc. Style will also need modification. BoLT
was written very differently from UT."
All true. Much of II will not be able to survive , but alot will, I hope . Enough to give a real flavor of the splendour of Gondolin and somedetails and much of intensity of the Battle. As the blind man said ... We shall see!
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I think if we do not use judicious care there is no point , as to what is judicious, that is where we will do better [and slower] as a group than individuals, as long as we can get general agreement on principles [which it seems we either have or are close to] and a coordinated way of working.I hope I am right in reading intoour public and private discussions that we are in agreement enough to give this a whirl and sort out our remaining differences in the course of working, if not say so, and i will happily back up a step or 2 [or 10 <img src=wink.gif ALT="
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so w/out further verbiage , I [and am suggesting we ,though if either of you have another pilot text you prefer say it now <img src=smile.gif ALT="
"> !] will reread the UT Of Tour and his coming [ I am assumng we want to use that more or less in it's entirety] and go through to the point whre one must return to the 77 and II,IV and V [I didn't see anything inXI at all , although I only looked into what i thought were obvious places] .
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After reading over the multiple versions say from the end of the UT Tuor to the capture of Maeglin , I propose we pick a text to use as our "base text " [the criteria being whic text has the most of what we think we will keep] and # the chapters sequentially for easy reference .
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I don't yet have a guess as to wether we want 77,IV or V or II. we will prob. be forced to use II as the base text for the battle and flight and make our deletions and editorial changes from that.
I am also anticipating that we will run into CRRT's editorializing quite quickly and this I hope will provide us w/ a model of how to adapt the style of older texts,esp. IV and V to the tone of JRRT's later X and XI style which seems to be the basis of whatended up in 77 .
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we will also hit the question , I am guessing of wether or not to keep and use links or more than cosmetic changes that CRRT made . I will tentatively put forth [I expect to hear some feedback on this! <img src=smile.gif ALT="
"> ] the idea that we seriously consider using any links he gives us that do not create new story, but are stylistic. What do you think on that? Wether or not to use CRRT's bigger changes deserves a thread of it's own and happily I don't think we need to cross that bridge yet ,but we will see what the tale will bring!
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I am hoping I myself can cover a paragraph more or less every day [or three !] and I woud imagine since I don't have chat capabilities and Saulotus has said he won't be using that mode that it will be most convienent fpr whoever wants to take a hand at this to pick alternating paragraphs [for example: saulotus 45, 48 and 51;Mithadan 46 ,49 and52 and; lindil 47,50, and53 - submitting each paragraph to the rest w/ a detailed list of what our emendations were and where they came from. We could even use a system of bracketing that would tell us which phrase or sentence or word came from what source , e.g. <Tuor said no> would indicate II
                                                                        { Tuor said no} would indicate 77
                                                                        [ tuor said no] would indicate IV etc.
                                                                        Tuor said no would indicate base text-V
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we could put the corresponding paragraph #'s in the margin this way we would be spared choopping the text up w/ clumsy words and abbrev. or detailed notes at the end and instead we can have clumsy brackets throughout the text. I am open to other suggestions here, this just popped into my head and seemed simple and convienent [compared to the alternatives I could imagine that is].
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As to debating changes and having a system whereby we hash out our disaggrements in a manner worthy of the Vanyar [let's say since they seemed to be peace-loving lovers of prose and poesy] here are a few ideas please feel free to come up w/ alternate idea's . I suggest that we submit our drafts to the group , automatically soliciting feedback which we then [ if there is any] hope is unanimously agreed on , if not we vote, majority rules -if we have a deadlock due to having an even # of editors we can either give 2 votes to the editor of the particular paragraph [or any size section] or choose an 'independent' arbitrator, say Ron, if he is willing.
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I am going to go back and # the above paragraphs so they can be commented on more easily as there is a pretty large # of suggestions being made.Then I am off to Gondolin via Hithlum and Nevrast- I imagine it will be a couple days before days before I am finished reading and getting an idea on a base tex t and ready to attempt my first paragraph of the section prior to Maeglin's capture. All are of course free to preempt me w/ suggestions of all kinds [ choice of books , base texts , manner of reolving editorial disputes, etc.].
I will reiterate to hopefully avoid any ill-will or confusion , these are suggestions, open to debate - i hope they are only seen as one members attempt to offer what he can and to make use of the small head of steam we have.
lindil
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