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Bêthberry · 06-15-2002, 05:48 PM

Greetings, Joy,

If I might be so bold as to offer my small contribution to this discussion even though I am not Catholic, ....

*settles down on the bank of the Withywindle, under the spreading canopy of a large oak tree, out of the rain-soaked earth, but breathing in the dank, musty odour*

One of the points I remember from days discussing things like 'how do writers put ideology in their novels' is the use of silent or quiet symbolism which does not formally announce itself. Graham Greene's Brighton Rock is one novel which we discussed endlessly in this way. As I recall, we came away with an understanding of a particular attitude towards community and the role of the fallen character in seeking redemption. Another was the use of colours which have specific ecclesiastical meanings.

In the case of Tolkien, Goldberry's yellow and white candles are significant, for these are the Pope's colours. The colours are all the more meaningful seeing that they are given to candles, which provide their unique kind of illumination.

*chews a long piece of grass dreamily*

Bethberry

06-15-2002, 05:48 PM	#8
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Greetings, Joy, If I might be so bold as to offer my small contribution to this discussion even though I am not Catholic, .... settles down on the bank of the Withywindle, under the spreading canopy of a large oak tree, out of the rain-soaked earth, but breathing in the dank, musty odour One of the points I remember from days discussing things like 'how do writers put ideology in their novels' is the use of silent or quiet symbolism which does not formally announce itself. Graham Greene's Brighton Rock is one novel which we discussed endlessly in this way. As I recall, we came away with an understanding of a particular attitude towards community and the role of the fallen character in seeking redemption. Another was the use of colours which have specific ecclesiastical meanings. In the case of Tolkien, Goldberry's yellow and white candles are significant, for these are the Pope's colours. The colours are all the more meaningful seeing that they are given to candles, which provide their unique kind of illumination. chews a long piece of grass dreamily Bethberry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.