[Lanniae of the Axe]

I would through myself of a cliff three times if PJ screws up in the ROTK as much as he did in TTT.

I agree! I would do the same! ...After I made a few orphans...

I've never been particularly fond of Gimili, or any of the dwarves for that matter, but I think if I could have more information on them I might enjoy reading about them more.

Well, how much have you read, Leona dear? I mean, not to sound rude, I didn't mean it that way, but it's just you have to be LOOKING for stuff. In the case of the Dwarves, you have to be interested in them and THEN go looking for stuff about them. The word "dwarf" has to catch your eye. The Appendicies at the back of ROTK have some great info on the History of the Dwarves. Really cool. Dwarves were very noble and valiant, their quirks being a touchy pride and a tendancy towards greed, but, heck, our GIMLI never showed much of that! Woo! Of course, he is touchy, but who wouldn't be if people pulled your beard and made wise-cracks about your height!

...but you really have to look at it from the point of view of a director. I know the book is supposed to be sad and serious, but someone who has not read the book, is not going to sit through three hours of saddness and dispare.

It is PJ's obligation as a director to NOT screw it up! At least, it should be. If a director goes into a project like this TRYING to make money and not really caring about how it will make all the Tolkienites feel, he shouldn't be the one doing it, he's just lowering himself down with all the other Hollywood losers. If people don't want to/can't sit through three hours of *sadness and *despair, they SHOULDN'T BE CALLING THEMSELVES TOLKIEN FANS! Those people should try READING that much of sadness and despair! Most of 'em are just illeterate bastards who need a good book report and Harry Potter isn't old enough for them.

Guess what? I MADE my 6th-grade little sister read ALL of the books before I took her to see FOTR! Cruel? No! That's the way it should be! (I coudl have made her read Unfinished Tales as well, so she gets the Isildur background as well, but THAT probably would have been cruel)

At the very least, if PJ had been true to the books, you wouldn't have to many untrue Tolkien fans prowling the internet! (i.e. Lego-teenie-bopper-fans)

And Leona, I agree that the comic relief could have gone to someone else. Of course, if PJ KNEW anything, he would have taken the TRUE comic relief characters, Merry and Pippin, and put them in there more! Gimli, on the contrary, is VERY much a serious guy! And anyone who laughs at his slap-stick comedy is a fool. "Oh, narf, let's watch Gimli get flattened by the Wargs! Because that SOOO happened in the book. Narf." [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Enough to make you sick.

Well, maybe if the role had been better, I would have liked him more...

Galadriel, just a quick question...what did you mean by that statement exactly? I'm not gonna hound you for it, and I promise I won't let Polices attack you too much, but please explain that a little more. Gimli's movie-character? Book-character?

Of course. But the money part of it plays a big role too, and I doubt that there are many Gimli-boppers out there

Hm... have you read through this whole thread? I mean, granted, there aren't millions of us out there, but, well...oh, I dunno. I have a theory, anyways, that TOLKIEN HIMSELF never liked the Dwarves. I know he loved his Elves. Personally, they make me sick a lot. *sigh*

That's why us Gimli Fans are both Proud...

...and Few. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

(That's okay, at least we're ROCKIN', right guys?) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]