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Child of the 7th Age · 07-04-2002, 08:15 PM

OOC-- Spent the day on the Gulf with seagulls and waves. I look like a red lobster. Ouch!

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Child had spent the entire day buried in the small library of ancient texts housed on the ship. She had not even been aware of Pio's return or the instrusion of the other vessel.

Unlike her Uncle Bilbo, Child was exceedingly bad at riddles. Much of what Angara said did not make any sense to her.

But Child did have one advantage. She had spent the past several days immersed in ancient Adunaic. In fact, she believed she was the only resident of the Barrow-downs who now knew more Adunaic than Elvish. She intended to use this to her advantage upon her eventual return to the Downs to show off to those pesky Elves that they were not the only ones who could be linguistic scholars!

Child set her ideas about the riddles down on paper and presented them to Angara. Her letter looked like this:

11 Afterlithe
Cabin #6
The Lonely Star

Dearest Angara, Most Ancient and Wise One,

O beneficient one, with my poor skills I will attempt to decipher your learned riddle. Could you please let me know if I am going about this the proper way?

"Anadune ziran hikallaba..." This means that beloved Numenor fell down

"Five stars there are upon a single star" I don't know what this means. I can't find any five stars in the Silmarillion, but I will look again tonight. (I do know that stars are "gimil" in Adunaic!)

"Heaven's pillar of old" Kali taught me this one. Heaven's pillar is Minul-tarik or the Mount of Menaltarma which has the Hallow of Eru at its very top. This is where private and public worship of Eru took place. It was a holy place, never defiled by Sauron.

Perhaps this is where the hobrim are now. There are old legends that, when Numenor sank, the Hallow of Eru rose again above the waters and formed a new Isle....."a lonely isle lost in the great waters."

"They are there, The little-folk, Now sea-changed, Hidden." It sounds like the little ones may have been transported to Menaltarma for safety after the actual flood, and that their hobbit bodies may have been changed to become hobrim.

"Ephalak idon Yozayan" Far away now is the land of Numenor.

"Giver of Gifts, he came, Zigurun" The bad wizard, i.e., Sauron came and brought bad gifts to people and made them forsake the right ways.

"Land of Gift, brought down" Numenor brought down.

We hid them, Nimir, the shining ones-- Nimir means Elves.

Angara, does this mean the Elves hid the Hobbits in the isle of Menaltarma, and changed their bodies so they could live in the Sea? This means we have to go to Numenor not before the flood, but after it. Is that correct?

Your devoted friend who greatly admires you,

Mistress Goodchilde of Hobbiton

[ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Child of the 7th Age ]

07-04-2002, 08:15 PM	#51
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	OOC-- Spent the day on the Gulf with seagulls and waves. I look like a red lobster. Ouch! _____________________________________________ Child had spent the entire day buried in the small library of ancient texts housed on the ship. She had not even been aware of Pio's return or the instrusion of the other vessel. Unlike her Uncle Bilbo, Child was exceedingly bad at riddles. Much of what Angara said did not make any sense to her. But Child did have one advantage. She had spent the past several days immersed in ancient Adunaic. In fact, she believed she was the only resident of the Barrow-downs who now knew more Adunaic than Elvish. She intended to use this to her advantage upon her eventual return to the Downs to show off to those pesky Elves that they were not the only ones who could be linguistic scholars! Child set her ideas about the riddles down on paper and presented them to Angara. Her letter looked like this: 11 Afterlithe Cabin #6 The Lonely Star Dearest Angara, Most Ancient and Wise One, O beneficient one, with my poor skills I will attempt to decipher your learned riddle. Could you please let me know if I am going about this the proper way? "Anadune ziran hikallaba..." This means that beloved Numenor fell down "Five stars there are upon a single star" I don't know what this means. I can't find any five stars in the Silmarillion, but I will look again tonight. (I do know that stars are "gimil" in Adunaic!) "Heaven's pillar of old" Kali taught me this one. Heaven's pillar is Minul-tarik or the Mount of Menaltarma which has the Hallow of Eru at its very top. This is where private and public worship of Eru took place. It was a holy place, never defiled by Sauron. Perhaps this is where the hobrim are now. There are old legends that, when Numenor sank, the Hallow of Eru rose again above the waters and formed a new Isle....."a lonely isle lost in the great waters." "They are there, The little-folk, Now sea-changed, Hidden." It sounds like the little ones may have been transported to Menaltarma for safety after the actual flood, and that their hobbit bodies may have been changed to become hobrim. "Ephalak idon Yozayan" Far away now is the land of Numenor. "Giver of Gifts, he came, Zigurun" The bad wizard, i.e., Sauron came and brought bad gifts to people and made them forsake the right ways. "Land of Gift, brought down" Numenor brought down. We hid them, Nimir, the shining ones-- Nimir means Elves. Angara, does this mean the Elves hid the Hobbits in the isle of Menaltarma, and changed their bodies so they could live in the Sea? This means we have to go to Numenor not before the flood, but after it. Is that correct? Your devoted friend who greatly admires you, Mistress Goodchilde of Hobbiton [ July 04, 2002: Message edited by: Child of the 7th Age ] __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.