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enep · 02-08-2001, 01:38 AM

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Hmm

But did being consumed by the ring really demolish all of Gollum's thoughts, his desires, his motives? The Witch King, consumed by a lesser ring, still had the same basic wish for power, for control. He commanded the army of Sauron on the Pellenor as if it were his own, and that he wanted to defeat the Gondorians (and others.) Angmar was founded by him and by him alone. Hmm. Z, what do you mean by "he thought he had motives?" Do you mean that he was really controlled by the Ring but thought he was himself? Everyone has motives. Everyone has thoughts; my view is that not even years of wielding the Ring would he have been totally 'hidden', completely 'taken over'. Take Gollum's split personality Slinker, for example. Although Gollum's thoughts/motives <img src=wink.gif ALT="

"> were always to betray Sam and Frodo as Slinker stood loyal to Frodo (for example in the Dead Marshes) basically up until the point where he realised that Frodo was going to destroy his Precious.

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02-08-2001, 01:38 AM	#3
enep The Ghastly Leprechaun Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 406	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 243</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Hmm But did being consumed by the ring really demolish all of Gollum's thoughts, his desires, his motives? The Witch King, consumed by a lesser ring, still had the same basic wish for power, for control. He commanded the army of Sauron on the Pellenor as if it were his own, and that he wanted to defeat the Gondorians (and others.) Angmar was founded by him and by him alone. Hmm. Z, what do you mean by "he thought he had motives?" Do you mean that he was really controlled by the Ring but thought he was himself? Everyone has motives. Everyone has thoughts; my view is that not even years of wielding the Ring would he have been totally 'hidden', completely 'taken over'. Take Gollum's split personality Slinker, for example. Although Gollum's thoughts/motives <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> were always to betray Sam and Frodo as Slinker stood loyal to Frodo (for example in the Dead Marshes) basically up until the point where he realised that Frodo was going to destroy his Precious. - enep</p> __________________ - enep