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**lindil** · 02-23-2001, 09:33 AM

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That quote ...

Beautiful discussion.

Excuse me if I missed the exact reference , but where in the Silm is it said that the Valar and Elves don't have free will and Men do?

I always love seeing things I completely missed.
Especially philosophical principles of great import - that show just how dense I can be.

lindil

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000076>lindil</A> at: 2/23/01 10:36:40 am

02-23-2001, 09:33 AM	#29
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 427</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> That quote ... Beautiful discussion. Excuse me if I missed the exact reference , but where in the Silm is it said that the Valar and Elves don't have free will and Men do? I always love seeing things I completely missed. Especially philosophical principles of great import - that show just how dense I can be. lindil </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000076>lindil</A> at: 2/23/01 10:36:40 am __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.