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mark12_30 · 05-30-2002, 02:18 PM

littlemanpoet,

I wonder what Tolkien thought about the consummation of the ages. He mentions that elves last only as long as the earth does, or "the world'-- augh, no book at hand, which is it?-- so when the world ends, does that mean the elves end too?

And since the old earth and heavens will be destroyed and a new heavens and new earth will be made, do the elves sort of get to switch over? A bit artificial, perhaps... but I have a hard time thinking of Tolkien imagining a world without elves.

In general-- do I vaguely recall that according to the Encyclopedia of Arda online, the Age of the Two Trees lasted about 9000 years? Are the lamps, and the twilight, even before that? Didn't the trees grow from what was left of the lamps after Melkor destroyed the lamps?

I always think of the two trees as the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. I don't know whether Tolkien thought of them that way or not.

05-30-2002, 02:18 PM	#22
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	littlemanpoet, I wonder what Tolkien thought about the consummation of the ages. He mentions that elves last only as long as the earth does, or "the world'-- augh, no book at hand, which is it?-- so when the world ends, does that mean the elves end too? And since the old earth and heavens will be destroyed and a new heavens and new earth will be made, do the elves sort of get to switch over? A bit artificial, perhaps... but I have a hard time thinking of Tolkien imagining a world without elves. In general-- do I vaguely recall that according to the Encyclopedia of Arda online, the Age of the Two Trees lasted about 9000 years? Are the lamps, and the twilight, even before that? Didn't the trees grow from what was left of the lamps after Melkor destroyed the lamps? I always think of the two trees as the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. I don't know whether Tolkien thought of them that way or not. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.