the thing about the hobbit that i always to be most strange was that gandalf couldnt read the writing on the swords or the map but elrond could... i suppose thats part of the stuff he forgot when he came to middle earth? but then why did he not bother to learn elvish in the 2000 odd years since he came but then did in the 60 between the hobbit and lotr? oh well [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]
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