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Thingol · 03-09-2002, 11:03 PM

This thread is much more informative than the website that was give. Orcish Fear The assumption that orcs are imortal, or even elves for that matter, is actually somewhat questionable. In the conversation between Shagrat and Gorbag neither them actually say that they actually remember the battle of the Last Alliance, they merely liken the situation at hand to it. Perhaps they merely heard or learned about the battle, and did not actually live during the second age. A better example of Orcs being immortal is the Great Goblin and several other orcs reconizing Orcist and Glamdring, which were swords forged during the first age. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Read the post, it is very interesting.

03-09-2002, 11:03 PM	#4
Thingol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 259	This thread is much more informative than the website that was give. Orcish Fear The assumption that orcs are imortal, or even elves for that matter, is actually somewhat questionable. In the conversation between Shagrat and Gorbag neither them actually say that they actually remember the battle of the Last Alliance, they merely liken the situation at hand to it. Perhaps they merely heard or learned about the battle, and did not actually live during the second age. A better example of Orcs being immortal is the Great Goblin and several other orcs reconizing Orcist and Glamdring, which were swords forged during the first age. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Read the post, it is very interesting. __________________ Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.