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Old 05-09-2002, 11:39 AM   #8
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LittleManPoet, very interesting thread. I can't say, I totally agree with you, but then again, I have never really considered the idea. Very interesting.

I assume you are referring to the 'Dead Marshes', and the thought of the land being alive? I always thought, it was the dead that were 'alive' and corrupted and twisted the area in there own way. Making the plants and rocks and sth, act as a part of their own 'spirit'. If you could call it such.

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'I don't know,' said Frodo in a dreamlike voice. 'But I have seen them too. In the pools when the candles were lit. They lie in all the pools, pale faces, deep deep under the dark water. I saw them: grim faces and evil, and noble faces and sad. Many faces proud and fair, and weeds in their silver hair. But all foul, all rotting, all dead. A fell light is in them.' Frodo hid his eyes in his hands. 'I know not who they are; but I thought I saw there Men and Elves, and Orcs beside them.'
Their has been many threads on the so-called entity of the Caradhras. I won't get into that now, since at the moment, beileve it or not, Im busy. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] But one thing that springs to mind is The Hobbit, wither you believe in 'Stone Giants' or that the mountain IS alive, or just a freak natual occurrence.

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When he(Bilbo) peeped out in the lightning-flashes, he saw that across the valley the stone-giants were out and were hurling rocks at one another for a game, and catching them, and tossing them down into the darkness where they smashed among the trees far below, or splintered into little bits with a bang. Then came a wind and a rain, and the wind whipped the rain and the hail about in every direction, so that an overhanging rock was no protection at all. Soon they were getting drenched and their ponies were standing with their heads down and their tails between their legs, and some of them were whinnying with fright. They could hear the giants guffawing and shouting all over the mountainsides.
Anyways, it is a very interesting topic, and one that I will keep my mind open too.
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