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From your replies the impression I got was that the mortals never actually were allowed into the city of Valinor and stayed on one of the nearby islands ( correct me if I am wrong).
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They were probably allowed to go there, but most likely they lived afterwards on Tol Eressëa..
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Also, that they did not become immortal once they stepped foot into this area. That it would just become a "pergatory" or a kind of peaceful waiting place for death, free of the troubles of Middle Earth.
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That is correct, immortality was not to be granted by the Valar, because they had not the "right" to take away Eru's "gift" to men or interfere with it, nor could they do it, unless it was through Manwë fulfilling the wishes of Ilúvatar.
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If the mortals (Frodo-especially him-Samwise, Bilbo, and Gimli) were granted the "gift" of immortality once they arrived at the undying lands, (regardless of how the story actually went) how do you think their lives would be? What I mean to say is, do you think they would be happy or tire from this gift?
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Maybe they would in time be "consumed" by the glory and splendour of Aman, the light would be too strong for them. Something in line with what happened to Lúthien in the end by the Silmaril she wore when she had become a mortal..
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Do you think it wise for the Valar to not permit them to become immortal ( if granting them the gift is possible ).
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If it was up to the Valar to decide (which it wasn't) it would probably be wise since they knew that the light eventually would "burn them out"..
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Or do you think they were selfish or foolish not to at least permit Frodo to enter Valinor and live forever? Use your imagination.
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They could not take Eru's gift away, only "The One" could.
[ July 01, 2003: Message edited by: Gorthol ]