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Originally posted by Elenhin:
<STRONG>It should also be noted that in early versions of the Silmarillion, such as the Books of Lost Tales, the name Ringil was used of the southern Lamp of the Valar. (I think its name was Ormal in the later versions.)</STRONG>
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This is not entirely correct, In earlier versions, Melkor had made two pillars (of ice) for the lights to be placed on: Ringil was the pillar on which the light Ormal was placed, like Illuin was placed on Helkar.
[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: Jellinek ]