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Iarwain · 01-24-2003, 05:24 PM

Well, just to say, I'm not trying to criticize Tolkien in any way.

I agree that Feanor, Meadros, and Gollum are great characters. Gollum is my most favorite because of the emotions he inspires in me.

Thank you for the compliment, doug [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] , I like the idea also. The way we can group characters from all across the scale and point out a characteristic and say "they all have this". Saeros and Celegorm display very bullyish qualities. I will explain. Saeros is a snob, and uses his social standing to publicly mock Turin in front of many people. This, I believe fits the more basic idea of bullying that you provided. Celegorm's bullying is much more obvious though. He wanted rule of Nargothrond with Curufin. He even scared the people so much that they would never go out openly again. He took advantage of the fact that Finrod had just left, and tried to bully Odereth out of his rule.

Ted was perhaps, a bit of a stretch, but he does bully occaisonally. I don't at all see how Galadriel bullied others outside of her distorted clone in the movies. She doesn't force anything on anyone.

Iarwain

01-24-2003, 05:24 PM	#8
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	Well, just to say, I'm not trying to criticize Tolkien in any way. I agree that Feanor, Meadros, and Gollum are great characters. Gollum is my most favorite because of the emotions he inspires in me. Thank you for the compliment, doug [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] , I like the idea also. The way we can group characters from all across the scale and point out a characteristic and say "they all have this". Saeros and Celegorm display very bullyish qualities. I will explain. Saeros is a snob, and uses his social standing to publicly mock Turin in front of many people. This, I believe fits the more basic idea of bullying that you provided. Celegorm's bullying is much more obvious though. He wanted rule of Nargothrond with Curufin. He even scared the people so much that they would never go out openly again. He took advantage of the fact that Finrod had just left, and tried to bully Odereth out of his rule. Ted was perhaps, a bit of a stretch, but he does bully occaisonally. I don't at all see how Galadriel bullied others outside of her distorted clone in the movies. She doesn't force anything on anyone. Iarwain __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"