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Old 07-21-2003, 12:37 PM   #15
lindil
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If Bomabadil is definetly nota Maia [according to JRRT] how can we say anything definite about Goldberry?

Much more can be said about the spirits before time mentioned above. I need to re-read it all and check sources myself.

But as for Ungoliant, I agree Gwaihir, we only see her in Avathar [the southern shores of the Undying Lands] after Aman has been established. From the paragraph 2 ch. 8 in the Silm it says that
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some of the eldar "have said...she may have descended from the darkness that lies about Arda...and that in the begining she was one he corrupted to his service."
Sounds pretty Maia-like to me.
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