Yes, let's not snarl at one another! This is all in my humble opinion, as always.<P>I think Elendur was more spot-on than anyone else. The movie includes what the director/scriptors/whatever felt was needed. They've undoubtedly read the book(s) and have their opinions just like everyone else. Some of your complaints make good points, but some are just pure opinion. Nonetheless, it was just a movie...the film crew's interpretation of what happened, condensed into 3 hours of video tape. I didn't understand why they changed certain things which is the subjective side of things, but with the objective side of this argument (indepdent thought - what is and isn't important), I don't think anyone could ever make a movie from a book such as this one without thousands of fans saying "I think you should of done it this way," "This wasn't emphasized enough," etc., etc. There are going to be those who feel the bad far outweighs the good, and vice versa. Personally, I thought the movie was a pretty good effort.<P>The three times I've seen the movie so far, I've seen it with people who are only familiar with the Hobbit or totally unexposed to Tolkien and his world. When talking to them, it was pretty clear that the film did show them the ring's ability to draw people into a strong desire of it. Galadriel, Boromir, Bilbo, and Saruman's reactions to the ring's presence got that point across well [as well as Saruman (due to his desire for it) being more of a servant to the ring, though I could see where someone could easily suspect otherwise]. Also, we did see Gandalf refuse to take the ring - Frodo offered it to him after learning of the evil that chases after it.<P>"Good heavens! Don't pretend that goblins can't count. They can. Twelve isn't fifteen and they know it."
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