Thread: Inherent Evil
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Old 08-05-2003, 04:48 PM   #96
Nils
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Good point, Nils. But..... then someone with a handicap (a corrupted hroa in some way) could claim that as justification for doing something against the will of Eru? I see your point, but I don't know that it overshadows the orc's ability to make choices.
Polka-dot,

It seems to me that you believe there is some sort of punishment involved here. As far as I know, there is no punishment that Eru passes upon those who follow the evil path. Evil leads to destruction inherently. That is just how Middle-earth works. Here is a quote from Morgoth's Ring:


The Elves certainly held and taught that fear or ‘spirits’ may grow of their own life (independently of the body), even as they may be hurt and healed, be diminished and renewed.*

*The following was added marginally after the page was written: If they do not sink below a cerain level. Since no fea can be annihilated, reduced to zero or not-existing, it is no[t] clear what is meant. Thus Sauron was said to have fallen below the point of ever recovering, though he had previously recovered. What is probably meant is that a ‘wicked’ spirit becomes fixed in a certain desire or ambition, and if it connot repent then this desire becomes virtually its whole being. But the desire may be wholly beyond the weakness it has fallen to, and it will then be unable to withdraw its attention from the unobtainable desire, even to attend to itself. It will then remain for ever in impotent desire or memory of desire.


If someone can can give up evil desires, then one can regain one is healed. It has nothing to do with judgement, it is just how it works.
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