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Lyta_Underhill · 02-08-2004, 11:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The only thing that was really missing, in my opinion, was the deep relationship that Frodo had with Faramir.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> After much consideration and time, I came to the realization that there was still something in the back of my mind that stuck wrong with regards to PJ's version of Faramir, even after the Extended Edition made him more likeable and understandable. That is his connection to Gandalf, the fact that Faramir is a "wizard's pupil" and takes more stock in the opinions and teachings of Mithrandir than in his own misguided father. I think the conflict in Faramir's mind with respect to pleasing and living up to Denethor's expectations would have been enriched by the inclusion of an understanding here such as was included in the book. This, I think, was one of the strongest threads in the Frodo-Faramir connection, the long reverence for the teachings and example of Gandalf. If only there had been a hint of this on Faramir's side, even a mention with a small double take on Frodo's reaction to it, there would have been the necessary depth to Faramir's character that I seem to miss. Without it, he merely seems to be a child striving to please a harsh father, a tragic figure but also a weakened one. And I suppose that is what I truly missed about the movie characterization of Faramir. <P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta

02-08-2004, 11:52 AM	#90
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The only thing that was really missing, in my opinion, was the deep relationship that Frodo had with Faramir.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> After much consideration and time, I came to the realization that there was still something in the back of my mind that stuck wrong with regards to PJ's version of Faramir, even after the Extended Edition made him more likeable and understandable. That is his connection to Gandalf, the fact that Faramir is a "wizard's pupil" and takes more stock in the opinions and teachings of Mithrandir than in his own misguided father. I think the conflict in Faramir's mind with respect to pleasing and living up to Denethor's expectations would have been enriched by the inclusion of an understanding here such as was included in the book. This, I think, was one of the strongest threads in the Frodo-Faramir connection, the long reverence for the teachings and example of Gandalf. If only there had been a hint of this on Faramir's side, even a mention with a small double take on Frodo's reaction to it, there would have been the necessary depth to Faramir's character that I seem to miss. Without it, he merely seems to be a child striving to please a harsh father, a tragic figure but also a weakened one. And I suppose that is what I truly missed about the movie characterization of Faramir. <P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”