The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - View Single Post - Would you like to see PJ or someone else try the Silmarillion and 'The Hobbit' ?

Man-of-the-Wold · 12-20-2002, 10:23 AM

As for a Film Hobbit, Ian Holm's role would be hard to recast. They likely need a new actor, although the whole thing of him being somewhat youngish in the Film-FoTR Prologue (which is true) but then aging later is not quite right. Once acquiring the Ring his appearance is not supposed to have aged one Iota. This of course would have been too much trouble to explain, and Movie tries to imply that he looks nowhere as old as he should for a Hobbit of 111. On the other hand they really wanted Ian Holm for the part, and it's a good choice even if they must go with a somewhate aged Bilbo. Where as Elijah Woods look is fine, even if his personality in Film-FoTR was still too child-like. He's supposed to look like a 33-year-old Hobbit, which is about 21 years for a human, and he's supposed to be "fair" for a Hobbit.<P>In any case, it would be hard for Ian Holm to look and act like what would be the equivalent for a human of about late thirtyish for an entirely new film.<P>As for Gandalf, I see no problem there. Hugo Weaving is and will remain for some time to be about right. The implications in the books, especially the Hobbit, is that he does not quite look like a pure Elf but rather a Man in his prime, which in that sense might mean mid-to-late thirtyish, or even older in a kingly if not athletic way. What they need to lose is his 5 o'clock shadow!<P>As for the Silmarillion, although multiple movies would make imminent sense, I think those Books provide better fodder for a Motion Picture. In some cases as far as dialogue would go, it would be an original screenplay. The problems of Adaption would be far less, and the scope for totally far-out special effects much broader. That's the work that I think Mr. Jackson was made for, and might have best preceded the current LoTR production.

12-20-2002, 10:23 AM	#16
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	As for a Film Hobbit, Ian Holm's role would be hard to recast. They likely need a new actor, although the whole thing of him being somewhat youngish in the Film-FoTR Prologue (which is true) but then aging later is not quite right. Once acquiring the Ring his appearance is not supposed to have aged one Iota. This of course would have been too much trouble to explain, and Movie tries to imply that he looks nowhere as old as he should for a Hobbit of 111. On the other hand they really wanted Ian Holm for the part, and it's a good choice even if they must go with a somewhate aged Bilbo. Where as Elijah Woods look is fine, even if his personality in Film-FoTR was still too child-like. He's supposed to look like a 33-year-old Hobbit, which is about 21 years for a human, and he's supposed to be "fair" for a Hobbit.<P>In any case, it would be hard for Ian Holm to look and act like what would be the equivalent for a human of about late thirtyish for an entirely new film.<P>As for Gandalf, I see no problem there. Hugo Weaving is and will remain for some time to be about right. The implications in the books, especially the Hobbit, is that he does not quite look like a pure Elf but rather a Man in his prime, which in that sense might mean mid-to-late thirtyish, or even older in a kingly if not athletic way. What they need to lose is his 5 o'clock shadow!<P>As for the Silmarillion, although multiple movies would make imminent sense, I think those Books provide better fodder for a Motion Picture. In some cases as far as dialogue would go, it would be an original screenplay. The problems of Adaption would be far less, and the scope for totally far-out special effects much broader. That's the work that I think Mr. Jackson was made for, and might have best preceded the current LoTR production. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.