[aragornreborn]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> When he's talking to Galadriel, he in no way says "we're getting married, so there" he says (in elvish) "I would have her take the ship to Valinor." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I know he doesn't use those words, but that's what he means. Otherwise, Galadriel wouldn't have sharply replied, "that choice is yet before her." Makes it sound like they both think she's staying or at least leaning towards staying. But from the TTT flashbacks, everyone thinks Arwen is leaving.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> elrond told him to not marry arwen. aragorn understands that elrond wants her to live forever, and he justs wants her to be happy. so he gives it back, hoping she will go to the grey havens <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That makes sense. But Arwen has said a million times that she wants to be with Aragorn. And I think Aragorn has accepted that and is happy, but.. do you want to hear my conspiracy theory? Well, you're going to anyway. <P>I think PJ and crew completely messed it up. This in no way resembles Aragorn. He loves her. She loves him. They are both fine with the fact that she is giving up her immortality. So, something must have happened to make Aragorn think that it would be better if Arwen went into the West. I don't think just Elrond talking to him could have done it. This never happened in the book, so why did PJ put it in? To make it more exciting and uncertain. Aragorn's behavior in FOTR indicates that he has hope both for Middle Earth and for his future with Arwen. I think that PJ wanted to show that Aragorn was losing hope in both the future of Middle Earth and his future with Arwen in TTT. So he adds these flashbacks. In TTT, Aragorn thinks Middle Earth doesn't have much hope. He wants to save Arwen from living (not for long) in a world ruled by Sauron. So PJ has him give back the pendant and try to send her away. I know that that doesn't fit with the timeline, but never let it be said that a director would let such trivial things like plot and accuracy get in the way of an "exciting" movie.<P>In summary of that very confusing paragraph, I believe that the only logical time period during which Aragorn would have given back the pendant was when he was depressed in TTT. While this theory fits great (in my opinion) with his character and actions, it also goes against the laws of time and place. But to me (and maybe PJ), it's a greater sin to ruin someone's character than to break a few laws of physics.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> PJ does things like this purely to make us discuss it in forums like this. Otherwise, the film wouldnt have the depth that the book had. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>lol. I hope he enjoys driving me crazy. Do I believe in Aragorn's character or physics? No contest. Aragorn wins.