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Tar-Palantir · 01-20-2003, 02:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> My point was simply that littlemanpoet (or rather his brother) expressed a very well thought out line of reasoning - an opinion based on research and fact and everyone spent paragraphs and paragraphs telling him how wrong he was. Not that his logic was faulty or his facts incorrect - he's just wrong for thinking so. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree that his post was thoughtful, and most definitely worthy of perusal - I even mentioned that I agree with some of it, and I don't believe I ever said he was wrong for thinking so. The points I addressed were ones in which he painted with too broad a stroke. Like his comments about Helm's Deep vs. Cleansing of Isengard, like his comments about LotR being an "eminently readable screenplay", like intimating that choice of directors was the key, like not adding details of costume, set, location and music into the equation. The rest of my commentary was mostly directed at issues you raised, Aratlithiel. And I didn't call you wrong either, I just debated the way you chose to word some things - and you raised a point that I wanted to see addressed - what constitutes being a fan. By the way, it probably was me next to you in the theater, I thought it was dark enough for me to slip by unnoticed... I had no idea such judgemental eyes were upon me ... <P>Anywho, about the Frodo change - Frodo's weak backbone and far from nimble feet seem to be an effort of the writers to show us, in a more dramatic fashion, the struggle he is having with the One Ring, and the perilous/vulnerable/exposed nature of his quest. jmo of course... Also, they might simply be trying to "save" his heroic moments for the end. Whatever they are doing that is one change I struggle to accept. <P>I would like to thank Aratlithiel, Diamond18, littlemanpoet, Doug*Platypus, Bill Ferny and Saucepan Man for typing such thoughtful, eloquent words in this and other threads. The BarrowDowns seems to be blessed with a number of articulate (though occasionaly long-winded ) individuals.<p>[ January 20, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

01-20-2003, 02:23 AM	#18
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> My point was simply that littlemanpoet (or rather his brother) expressed a very well thought out line of reasoning - an opinion based on research and fact and everyone spent paragraphs and paragraphs telling him how wrong he was. Not that his logic was faulty or his facts incorrect - he's just wrong for thinking so. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree that his post was thoughtful, and most definitely worthy of perusal - I even mentioned that I agree with some of it, and I don't believe I ever said he was wrong for thinking so. The points I addressed were ones in which he painted with too broad a stroke. Like his comments about Helm's Deep vs. Cleansing of Isengard, like his comments about LotR being an "eminently readable screenplay", like intimating that choice of directors was the key, like not adding details of costume, set, location and music into the equation. The rest of my commentary was mostly directed at issues you raised, Aratlithiel. And I didn't call you wrong either, I just debated the way you chose to word some things - and you raised a point that I wanted to see addressed - what constitutes being a fan. By the way, it probably was me next to you in the theater, I thought it was dark enough for me to slip by unnoticed... I had no idea such judgemental eyes were upon me ... <P>Anywho, about the Frodo change - Frodo's weak backbone and far from nimble feet seem to be an effort of the writers to show us, in a more dramatic fashion, the struggle he is having with the One Ring, and the perilous/vulnerable/exposed nature of his quest. jmo of course... Also, they might simply be trying to "save" his heroic moments for the end. Whatever they are doing that is one change I struggle to accept. <P>I would like to thank Aratlithiel, Diamond18, littlemanpoet, Doug*Platypus, Bill Ferny and Saucepan Man for typing such thoughtful, eloquent words in this and other threads. The BarrowDowns seems to be blessed with a number of articulate (though occasionaly long-winded ) individuals.<p>[ January 20, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!