[Tar-Palantir]

ahhhh... I feel the fertile soil of common ground under my furry hobbit feet. Just a few grains of this stuff and we can sew goodwill throughout the Barrow Downs. <P>I hereby agree to disagree, and will argue this point no further. Unless someone dangles the proverbial carrot by going on a tirade... then I might join in the fun! <P><B>Davem</B> - It's a funny point really that Shire business, rather a little microcosm of the discussion. You didn't like it for various reasons and I respect that, yet it's a funny situation, because I suspect no Producer/Director/Set designer would have even gone to those lengths (you know all about the year in advance of gardening, landscaping, letting fence lines grow in,etc.. beforehand) that PJ and Co. did. Hence it too is apparently unfilmable (obviously not more difficult than the likes of Fangorn, but still impossible to perfect). The difference for me is - I appreciated all the extraordinary effort given, and it enhances my view of the place, gives it more soul, and I find that true throughout the films.<P>Cheers,<BR>