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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> From Kalla - What I wonder is how this place helps them heal/regain their life back. I was also under the impression that they didn't really die, but that they sorta faded away...and I don't remember where I got that idea, so...lol, it could be wayyy off, and probably is. But if anyone knows the answer to that, I'd be appreciate of an answer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>As for the humans/hobbits who went to Valinor or the Undying Lands, they did die. They were healed because this is the place of the Valar/Ainu, the holy ones. There is some sort of healing virtue that passes to those who come to this land through the Valar.<P>As far as the fading away.. The elves fade in Arda or Middle Earth. They return to Valinor, also called Aman, for renewed life. They can be killed or die from woundedness of heart in ME, then go to the halls of Mandos where they are healed. But as for Frodo, Bilbo, Sam and Gimli (rumored), they stayed in Valinor for a time but then passed in the fashion of men and dwarves.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>From GreatWarg - I was always quite sure they went to Valinor. Quote from the Silm "Where the ELdar King forever reins..." SO, I suppose that would mean they live forever there? And that's where Gimli and Legolas go, and other Elves too when they flee from ME.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gimli is the only dwarf to enter Valinor and that is only rumored, according to the Appendix in RotK. <P>Only the Elves(Eldar) are immortal. It is the gift of Iluvatar to men that they die. It is never mentioned, that I know of, where the Dwarves go when the pass on. I believe that I have heard or read somewhere that they return to the stone that they were created from.<P>While it is mentioned that "some mortals 'by some fate or grace or favour of the Valar.. had come to the lamplit quays of Avallónë..'" from Akallabêth. It is possible, then, that some unusually fortunate mortals had come to the Undying Lands at some point in the Third Age, before the Ring-bearers' ship at the Age's end. <P>There seems to be one interesting case.. Tuor, who is a man(Edain) of the house of Hador was a servant, a messenger, of Ulmo. He was sent to Turgon, King of Gondolin, and there married his daughter Idril. After the Fall of Gondolin, he dwelt at the Mouths of Sirion for a time, but later he built Eärrámë(a ship) and sailed into the West with Idril. <P>It seems that he was granted, by Eru, to be counted as one of the Eldar(Elves). This is one of the most interesting accounts, and the only one, that I have found of a mortal going to Valinor and receiving immortality.