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Old 01-29-2003, 02:56 PM   #20
Legolas
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This situation would not exist. Most men and dwarves barely knew of the Undying lands. So they wouldn't have thought to go there. Also, men would not have left ME. They would have stayed and fought till the end. If they saw this as in vain. They would have attempted to set sail and refind Numenor
It's not a question of whether or not it would exist. It is supposed in this hypothetical situation, and if you think it's ridiculous, why comment?

The men and dwarves may not have been aware of Aman. Perhaps then, the Valar would they summon the other free peoples like they did the elves? The elves didn't just wake up and magically head west...they were summoned to safety from Morgoth. The Valar debated heavily on the matter; even Ulmo, second in might, thought it was a bad idea. Why is it then ridiculous to consider the idea that they might do the same with Sauron if he proved to be to great for the armies of Middle-earth to handle?

The men and dwarves would have to be suspicious if all of the elves just suddenly sailed off. Who is to say some other races wouldn't have tried to follow them? I see it as likely.

The initial post posed that Sauron had gained control over Middle-earth. This, to me, would mean that the armies of Gondor and Rohan, if not mostly destroyed, would be hiding in the mountains and forests. The great towers and fortresses of old would undoubtedly be taken over. Men would have nowhere left to fight from (or nothing to fight for, really).

Would the Valar sent a mightier force than the Istari? Brought their own army of elves/Maiar over to do something about it?

[ January 29, 2003: Message edited by: Legolas ]
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