I'm sorry to go right into Star Wars now but Emni Windrunner, you say that Obi-Wan failed both the Padawan learners he taught.<P>Although Anakin is undisputed, Luke was another matter. He was not taught in the Jedi arts by Obi-Wan. It was Yoda with the assistance of Obi-Wan. And on that topic, recently revealed is that not only did Luke go to the Dark Side having been trained by Yoda, but Count Dooku having been Yoda's padawan also turned and was responisible for Anakin's later choices. <P>However I do still believe that Gandalf had the superior power, just had to point that out and defend Obi-Wan.
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