[Armetiel]

^just so you know, some of the things that are missing (like the gift giving) are in the EE edition, and had to be cut because of screen time, however Jackson still filmed them and they are still in the movie although, you are right, it would explain a lot and it's not a scene i would have cut, from the Theatrical version either<BR> <BR>no one really is going to remember who elendil is anyways, if they haven't read the book...<P>personally, yes tom bombadil should have been in at least the extendend version, as well as the old forest, but you don't really NEED those parts to understand what's going on..so yeh, time limits call for change, it can't be helped<P>Dwarves going with Bilbo, Jackson probably didn't want to hire another couple actors for such a small part that doesn't really effect the story, and it's not like he completely took out dwarves (however I would have liked to see a bit more of Gloin like in the book)<P>as for "the power of the ring could not be undone" well, really it couldn't. That's why Frodo has to destroy the ring so many years later...<P> As too Celebrimbor, I think PJ is trying to NOT confuse the audience who haven't read the book by throwing too many names at them that aren't going to appear elsewhere in the movie<P>As to saying good bye to bill, well not only did you not see them buying him, he's not even with them on Caradhras...so yeh, I'd say cut the scene, in fact cut the pony when they first leave rivendell too, unless you want to put him in all the scenes...but please..one way or the other lol<P>as for weather top, I thought the blackriders looked pretty scared of the fire...but I agree with the Anduril bit.<P>TTT, I LOVE the scene with the peasants ..personally i thought it a great addition.<P>The stalling of the ents was stupid, i was a bit annoyed at that.<P>The woman and children go to helm's deep in the book, so why not in the movie...personally i think having them in it was a GREAT idea, so it's not all battles (which there are already too much of)<P>The whole warg thing and Aragorn almost dying was dumb, but hey it's not supposed to be just like the book and they took out the warg scene from the fellowship, so why not add one here.<P>Elrond's roll is there because he did not approve of Aragorn's and Arwen's relationship. (In the book)<P>Personally i liked the elves at helms deep, however they shouldn't be there if he was being true to the book, which he wasn't, so it doesn't matter. however, Haldir should not have been killed as he lives in the book. And personally i agree with leaving Earkenbrand out, too confusing, stick with ppl we already know (confusing to ppl who haven't read the book i mean)<P>I HATE that Faramir didn't let Frodo and Sam go and brought them to Osgiliath, that part was HORRID.<P>I think the Huorns are in the EE. cut for screen time<P>again, i think it's great that the kids were in the movie so often, and I don't care WHOSE kids they are lol as long as they are in it.<P>ROTK<BR>Saruman will be in EE, however I don't think he should have been cut, and still I've heard that in EE, it's going to be some big showdown between him and Gandalf..what's all that about...<P>Smeagol turning frodo against Sam was def. uncalled for...it's my least fav part<P>the figures weren't seen on the stair because of the elven cloaks i guess<P>Faramir and Eowyn's story will prob be in the EE<P>as for the boat, it doesn't say in the book that Celeborn WASN"T with them does it? i could be wrong...if you want a REALLY pointless change, howabout in the book they were 14 days from rivendell at weathertop, and only 6 in the movie...(or something like that)<P>anywayz, i'd comment more but i gotta go now..<p>[ 11:58 PM January 22, 2004: Message edited by: Armetiel ]