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Lyta_Underhill · 02-08-2004, 12:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Go into an explanation on why the Elves are going into the West and why Men aren't allowed to go? You have to bring in the Silmarillion to really get into that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> A good point, caligulathegod (great name, by the way, and also welcome!). I think that the problem I had with the Grey Havens was not who gets to go and who doesn't per se, but the fact that Frodo is not singled out in the hobbits' return to the Shire. All four hobbits are shown as somewhat alienated and Sam appears to be the only one who jumps right back into Shire life. It does not show the difference in the interface with the "average Shire hobbit" between Frodo and the other three hobbits. To me, it is not made clear that Frodo's life in the Shire AFTER the War of the Ring is absolutely untenable. It doesn't address the great need of Frodo to find healing that life in the Shire cannot provide. He just seems to up and leave one day. I can't help but hold out hope that there will be one extra scene that will differentiate Frodo from his friends and show how rarified he has become, illustrating his need to pass West with the Elves. Cheers! Lyta

02-08-2004, 12:11 PM	#65
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Go into an explanation on why the Elves are going into the West and why Men aren't allowed to go? You have to bring in the Silmarillion to really get into that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> A good point, <B>caligulathegod</B> (great name, by the way, and also welcome!). I think that the problem I had with the Grey Havens was not who gets to go and who doesn't per se, but the fact that Frodo is not singled out in the hobbits' return to the Shire. All four hobbits are shown as somewhat alienated and Sam appears to be the only one who jumps right back into Shire life. It does not show the difference in the interface with the "average Shire hobbit" between Frodo and the other three hobbits. To me, it is not made clear that Frodo's life in the Shire AFTER the War of the Ring is absolutely untenable. It doesn't address the great <I>need</I> of Frodo to find healing that life in the Shire cannot provide. He just seems to up and leave one day. I can't help but hold out hope that there will be one extra scene that will differentiate Frodo from his friends and show how rarified he has become, illustrating his need to pass West with the Elves. <P>Cheers!<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”