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mollecon · 10-21-2003, 08:09 PM

There's also another point to this discussion, I think; <I>had</I> Elrond used force to make Isildur give up the ring, it would already have won! One of the main tricks it played was turning friends against each other.<P>As far as I recall, Gandalf also says (in connection with the debate on NOT using force against Bilbo) that not only would it break Bilbo's spirit - it would also lead Gandalf himself onto a very dangerous path - I think the same can be said about the Elrond/Isildur debate.

10-21-2003, 08:09 PM	#34
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	There's also another point to this discussion, I think; <I>had</I> Elrond used force to make Isildur give up the ring, it would already have won! One of the main tricks it played was turning friends against each other.<P>As far as I recall, Gandalf also says (in connection with the debate on NOT using force against Bilbo) that not only would it break Bilbo's spirit - it would also lead Gandalf himself onto a very dangerous path - I think the same can be said about the Elrond/Isildur debate.