[lindil]

Kalimac posted: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Can you imagine what it would make Gandalf look like, if, after getting the news that the Nine are abroad and that Frodo is in hourly danger of being killed or turned into a wraith, he lets Frodo and Sam just go off with little idea of what they're doing and no protection worth speaking of? Now THAT would be an impossible scene to write. "Well, so long, Frodo. Um, make sure to look behind you frequently." <BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>But in the book he gets the news at Bree, no more than a hard day or so from bag-end.<P>And he does leave them with no direct help.<P>He <I>hopes</I> they will get the Letter and that Aragorn will look after him.<P>So I find both scenarios [the movie and the idea of Radagast coming to the Shire] less than compelling.<P>As for those who are saying the movie should not be criticized unless we are willing to make our own, come on! I don't have time!!! I am trying to make another Silmarillion! <P>This is a DISCUSSION BOARD, A FORUM.<BR>WE ARE HERE TO CRITIQUE, praise, explore, marvel, suggest alternatives, and many other things.<P>I have several times heard this, what to me seems ridiculous defending of PJ's movie to be beyond critique and that I should go away if I don't worship every change. <P>Well I have some bad news for you. I am [God willing] not going away, I am not making a new movie and I am going to see the Two Towers and laud it's greatness and point out it's flaws. And I will do it all right here in this forum! and alot of other folks will too.<P>Please also note, I do not go into every thread and throw a wet blanket on the movie worship party. I was invited to this thread and found debate already underway and joined it. I found it was a good place to express my feelings about the movie. I will not even ask if it is OK with anyone in this thread as I have been posting on the downs before the movie was ever close to being released!<P><BR>I suggest if you do not want to see your beloved movie de-constructed that you could very happily look for a board [ or at least threads] where it is worshipped by all. I am sure they are legion, and I am sure these boards are full of folks who have maybe barely read LotR more than once, and when they have they wonder why the 'book version' of the movie did not follow it closely enough!<P>In case you have not noticed the downs is NOT primarily a Movie site - lots of these exist though, it IS a thinking and creative person's forum dedicated to Tolkien.<P><B> The Movie is NOT Canon! and shall not be treated as such!</B> now there is a tempting line for a whole new thread!<P>High Quality RPG's <BR>A Books discussion section that is equal to any.<BR>A revised Silmarillion project.<P>This is not a board where those who do not wish to debate, discuss and argue in a warm and friendly fashion will be comfortable.<P> <P>In case no one noticed The Downs itself and what it represents and what others and myself have put into it over the course of nearly 3 years means <I>way</I> more to me than PJ's movie! I could easily live without the film, even though I enjoy it. The Downs though, that I love. And I will gladly respond over and over to any nonsense suggestions that movie criticism has no place here.<P> <p>[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]