[The Saucepan Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And I think that Saucepan Man has pinpointed my real problem with Faramir, and that is FRODO! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree, Lyta, that (as in the case of Faramir) Book Frodo and Film Frodo are essentially two different characters. But, again, I think that Film Frodo works well within the context of the films. To my mind, the films establish sufficient noble traits in Frodo to persuade the audience that he is a worthy hero (his volunteering to take the Ring at the Council of Elrond and his treatment of Smeagol are two examples that spring to mind). Yes, he is at the same time far more vulnerable and (for want of a better word) helpless than Book Frodo, but I think that this endears him to film audiences. I do agree, however, that the effect of the Ring on him is far too pronounced by the end of TTT. It does make you wonder what kind of a gibbering wreck he will be in RotK. <P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> it would alter the entire plot if the Nazgul knew that Frodo carried the Ring (think about when he gets captured by the Orcs) and it would change the mindset of the Dark Lord knowing that the Ring was so close. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I actually don't see this as a problem, Lord of Angmar, and I think that Darby hit the nail on the head here. The fact that the Ring is seen by the Nazgul in Osgiliath in the company of Faramir will logically suggest to Sauron that it is on its way to Minas Tirith, thus provoking him to show his hand by marching on the city earlier than he might otherwise have done. <P>No, it is with Faramir's "leap of faith" that I have credibility difficulties - in what way does Frodo's behaviour persuade Faramir that he is the right person to take the Ring to Mordor? Aragorn's similar "leap of faith" in LotR seemed much more convincing because Aragorn had come to know Frodo so well and appreciate his qualities.