[Elladan and Elrohir]

Thanks! And, yes, you may call me E&E. They do on another LOTR board...<P>I am Elladan. My brother Elrohir may eventually show up.<P>As to the Witch-king argument, if it happens in the timing of the book, I find it impossible that Sauron would have waited as long as he did. Remember, he had already sent a Nazgul across the Anduin to Isengard (at this point in the book), which, according to Gandalf, was a sign of impending war and the reason Gandalf and Pippin immediately rode off to Minas Tirith. Of course, the ultimate reason Sauron triggered the war (in the book) was Aragorn's looking into the Palantir of Orthanc.<P>I would think that, with the immediate knowledge that the Ring was, at that very moment, in Osgiliath, Sauron would have sent all the Nazgul to that place immediately while at the same time sending an army out of Minas Morgul to that location as well.<P>Also, it is clear from the book that the Nazgul can sense the Ring even when the Ringbearer doesn't have it on. Aragorn makes that statement at Weathertop just before the attack, and the Witch-king is also drawn by it just as he leads the army out of Minas Morgul.<P>And yes, that site is the encyclopedia itself.